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ComputerWorld reviews the new XServe (It has SCSI!)
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Oct 27, 2006, 12:59 PM
 
http://www.computerworld.com/action/...p;pageNumber=1

This is kinda funny, actually. It's the first Mac to have SCSI since the Beige G3 (or did the B&W G3 have SCSI built in?)

What's cool, though, is that it has both Serial SCSI and Serial ATA, and you can use either in the hot-swap drive bays. According to the article, Apple's the only company that offers this. Pretty damn cool.

Also, Apple offers a PCI-E to PIC-X adapter for one of the slots. I was wondering when one of these would hit the market. While not pin-compatible, PCI-E is software backwards compatible with older PCI standards. Just requires a hardware adapter.
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Oct 27, 2006, 03:44 PM
 
AFAIK it has SAS, not SCSI.
     
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Oct 27, 2006, 03:53 PM
 
WHat would be really cool is if Apple starts building in redundancies, more self-awareness of hardware states, and something like HP's ILO (allowing remote reboots of the machine), and prices their hardware competitively with the high-end/Enterprise server makers. I would like to see prices come down all around, as well as cool technologies emerge in this area that I could afford.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
WHat would be really cool is if Apple starts building in redundancies, more self-awareness of hardware states, and something like HP's ILO (allowing remote reboots of the machine), and prices their hardware competitively with the high-end/Enterprise server makers. I would like to see prices come down all around, as well as cool technologies emerge in this area that I could afford.
I have no clue what any of that means, and neither does Steve Guttenberg, I'll bet. But I did read the short ars blog review, and it talks about Lights-Out Management, which I guess means that you can remotely administer the thing even if it's not running. Sounds cool to me!

http://arstechnica.com/journals/appl...006/10/27/5773
     
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Originally Posted by Dork. View Post
I have no clue what any of that means, and neither does Steve Guttenberg, I'll bet. But I did read the short ars blog review, and it talks about Lights-Out Management, which I guess means that you can remotely administer the thing even if it's not running. Sounds cool to me!

http://arstechnica.com/journals/appl...006/10/27/5773
It's got ILO now? Very cool...

Basically, I was talking about building in additional power supplies and Ethernet, and automatically failing over when a component fails. As far as the hardware self-awareness, a Sun/Solaris box can apparently automatically disable one of its processors and notify you that it has done so in an attempt to circumvent some sort of problem.

Anybody know anything about SMART drive status? I know there is a piece of software called smartd that can send a report indicating a failing drive, but why isn't this sort of thing more common?

One thing I also forgot to mention was hot swappable drives and memory.
     
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Oct 27, 2006, 06:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by mduell View Post
AFAIK it has SAS, not SCSI.
SAS = Serial Attached SCSI
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Basically, I was talking about building in additional power supplies and Ethernet, and automatically failing over when a component fails. As far as the hardware self-awareness, a Sun/Solaris box can apparently automatically disable one of its processors and notify you that it has done so in an attempt to circumvent some sort of problem.
It has redundant, hot-swappable power supplies with load balancing.
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
...prices their hardware competitively with the high-end/Enterprise server makers. I would like to see prices come down all around, as well as cool technologies emerge in this area that I could afford.
A 1U server equivalent to the low-end Xserve from Dell (Poweredge 1950, I believe) prices out at around $4,000 and up...Dell is the noncompetetive manufacturer here.
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Originally Posted by olePigeon View Post
It has redundant, hot-swappable power supplies with load balancing.

What does, the new XServe?

I suppose I should read up on what it will offer, but certainly much of this is new. What all is redundant and hot-swappable now?
     
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Originally Posted by Mister Elf View Post
A 1U server equivalent to the low-end Xserve from Dell (Poweredge 1950, I believe) prices out at around $4,000 and up...Dell is the noncompetetive manufacturer here.

That's what I said high end/enterprise.
     
   
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