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Nov 21, 2007, 09:22 PM
 
I bought a used G4 Digital Audio from university surplus.
My current machine is a G4 Sawtooth. Technically, most everything I have in my current machine would move over to the new machine.
The benefits are a slightly faster bus (133 vs 100), and a dual processor supported system
(my current G4 won't run DPs)

I doubt that the bus difference would be noticeable. I would lose 128MB of Memory (I have a 256 stick that's only 100mzh)

So here's the potential plan: It doesn't make much sense to move my processor, video card, drives, memory, etc over to the new machine. The 133mhz bus just wouldn't give me that much gain (or would it?)

I sell my old machine with most of it's upgrades in place (probably keep the memory and drives, but everything else goes.) Then with the sale money, buy a DP upgrade for the new machine, and maybe a slightly nicer video card (currently a Radeon 8500).

Make sense? Or am I simply dreaming? I had planned for a while to just flat out buy a new machine, but it's still a ways off. (A long ways)

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Nov 22, 2007, 01:20 AM
 
IMO such upgrading is no way worth the effort.

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Nov 22, 2007, 03:58 AM
 
You will hardly notice the difference.

How much did you spend on your new G4?

Why not sell them both, take the $379 or so you get (guestimate) and put it toward this $479 refurb mini:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...nplm=FA608LL/A

Radically faster, stable, intel platform, one-year warranty. For around $100 and a little effort you could change your computing life.
     
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Nov 22, 2007, 04:52 AM
 
One potential problem is that at least some of your RAM might not work in your new machine (PC100 SDRAM doesn't work in the DA!), plus you won't make much money selling a bare-bones machine.

So I agree with Nina: invest in a much newer machine, a refurb Intel-based Mac mini fits the bill. Other options are Intel- or G5-based iMacs (you can use your existing screen with them and use them to extend your desktop).
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Nov 22, 2007, 05:29 AM
 
There is a fairly good market for replacement parts for old machines on ebay. You could strip both machines down & sell the parts separately & probably make more $$ than you would by trying to sell them whole, then use that money towards a more up to date machine.

I have done this 3 times already with a B&W G3, then a Sawtooth, and then a GigaE. Each time I bought the new machine, then sold ALL of the parts from the old ones & made back just about all of the money spent on the newer ones.........YMMV

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Nov 22, 2007, 05:48 AM
 
Originally Posted by bowwowman View Post
There is a fairly good market for replacement parts for old machines on ebay. You could strip both machines down & sell the parts separately & probably make more $$ than you would by trying to sell them whole, then use that money towards a more up to date machine.

I have done this 3 times already with a B&W G3, then a Sawtooth, and then a GigaE. Each time I bought the new machine, then sold ALL of the parts from the old ones & made back just about all of the money spent on the newer ones.........YMMV

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Very cool idea, if you have the knowhow and time.

Can anybody make a more educated guess than mine as to what his two machines would bring on eBay sold whole?

How about in parts as bowwowman suggets?

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Nov 22, 2007, 12:07 PM
 
Hmmm, sounds like bowwowman has a biz model. I could could unload my closets of old machines, ship them to him, and we split the profit.

Can't have the 3400c laptop though. It still works and there is an emotional bond. Unfortunately it cannot communicate with anything.

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Nov 22, 2007, 01:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by SierraDragon View Post
Hmmm, sounds like bowwowman has a biz model. I could could unload my closets of old machines, ship them to him, and we split the profit.

Can't have the 3400c laptop though. It still works and there is an emotional bond. Unfortunately it cannot communicate with anything.

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works 4 me
But I wont sell MY 3400 either.....1st computer I ever owned & it's aint goin nowhere as long as I'm breathin
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Nov 22, 2007, 01:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by ninahagen View Post
Very cool idea, if you have the knowhow and time.

Can anybody make a more educated guess than mine as to what his two machines would bring on eBay sold whole?

How about in parts as bowwowman suggets?

nina
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Sawtooth whole: $50-125
DA whole: $75-200

Alot depends on physical condition & specs, not including shipping or fees:

Empty cases w/ fan, & front pcbs intact: $15-50
PSU: $25-75
CPU: $25-75
Mobo: $35-75, dep on rev #
Video cards: $5-25
Ram: $3-15 each
HDD's: $5-30

This info is based on some recently closed auctions over the past month or so, plus a quick look at several marketplace forums here & there

Not saying these are absolute min/max prices, but rather a generalized range of possibilities.......
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Nov 22, 2007, 01:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by SirCastor View Post
I bought a used G4 Digital Audio from university surplus.
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So here's the potential plan: It doesn't make much sense to move my processor, video card, drives, memory, etc over to the new machine. The 133mhz bus just wouldn't give me that much gain (or would it?)
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If you are inclined to tinker, and you have both machines, why not give it a try? Assemble the fastest components into the DA box. See if there is much of a boost.

I'm going to agree with the others, the final DA box would be faster, but not by very much. Much less than the boost you'd get from a modern Mac. So the time spent tinkering would be for entertainment more than anything else.

I'd probably do it, for the fun factor. Most people prefer to waste their free time on other things though.
     
   
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