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Old OS on New Mac mini
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Anyone ever try installing 10.5.8 or 10.5.8 Server on a unibody Mac mini? Usually installing an older OS doesn't work, but it's not always the case. Plus on OS X Server, I've had luck installing that on years-newer computers, like it has some sort of generic drivers just to get it booted. I ask because a customer has a mac mini server running 10.6 Server, and it simply will not work properly. I've set up more 10.5 servers than I can count and they all run like champs. And every time I set up a 10.6 server, it's nothing but buggy. So I'm going to reinstall the OS and try to set it up again from scratch. But if it will run 10.5 instead, I will DEFINITELY go that route instead.
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It may be possible to install it on a supported machine, then transfer the install to the new machine. Make sure you run the 10.5.8 combo update so you get any support drivers for the newer hardware, if any are available. Not supporting some of the hardware may be your undoing.
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I really doubt it will work without issues.
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If 10.5.x server works on a current Mini, it's an entirely unsupported configuration, so it would be very ill-advised to do it. In any case, it is extremely unlikely to work.
Also, the drivers in 10.5.x Server are no different than those of the regular desktop OS.
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Well I can always try installing it on my 13" MBP. It's got the 320m and is basically the same thing as a unibody mac mini. But if anyone has actually tried it first hand, let me know.
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Its probably the GPU drivers you'll struggle most with.
Why would you want to run a 10.5 server on it anyway?
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Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep
Its probably the GPU drivers you'll struggle most with.
Why would you want to run a 10.5 server on it anyway?
Time Machine is broken in 10.6 Server, it causes the server and/or client to crash. 10.5 is the only version that Time Machine works.
At least, that's my reason for having a second server running 10.5.8.
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I tried it on my laptop as a test, and no luck. KP at boot every time. And for me, the reason is 10.6's buggy firewall that often times will stop the server from getting and IP over DHCP. And, endless problems with the calendar server.
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Originally Posted by l008com
I tried it on my laptop as a test, and no luck. KP at boot every time. And for me, the reason is 10.6's buggy firewall that often times will stop the server from getting and IP over DHCP. And, endless problems with the calendar server.
Running OS X Server on a dynamic IP address is bound to have issues. I'd work on solving that problem rather than an unsupported OS configuration.
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Many ISPs that provide a static IP, still have you connect via DHCP. And they hardcode their routers to give you the same IP. I use the same feature in my home so my mac pro always gets 172.16.0.2. Also you should be able to run a server on a dynamic IP system anyway. On my laptop, I use OS X Server just for AFP and NetBoot serving. Theres no reason why it should have any trouble using these features. And yet, even with my firewall set to allow all traffic, sometimes DHCP gets blocked. I think sometimes DNS gets blocked too. I definitely wont' be upgrading my two 10.5 servers to 10.6. Hopefully 10.7 server is better.
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