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Powermac g5 hard drive problem
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vx1og
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Apr 13, 2008 , 02:14 AM
 
Lately while playing video games, my computer freezes.. sometimes after just 30 seconds of playing, other times after a half hour or so.. I checked disk utility and after doing verify disk, i get this...




I have no idea what i need to do..

can anyone help?

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Apr 13, 2008 , 02:19 AM
 
Startup using the OS X install disc and choose Disk Utility from the Tools menu. If the problems can't be repaired that way, Disk Warrior may be a good choice. However, with 500GB SATA drives going for $87, I also recommend getting a new drive. They're very simple to install in G5s and you'll be happier with more space. As for the freezes you've been experiencing, they may be hard drive related or due to some other issue. If you could show a panic log there may be more I could tell you.

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Apr 13, 2008 , 02:30 AM
 
Your filesystem is damaged. Although the SMART status (which is a health indicator for your harddrive) shows `verified' (i. e. ok), it may still be a hardware issue.
(1) Make a backup now! Do not clone your volume (otherwise you clone a damaged volume -- which again may contain the same damaged file system structure)!
(2) New harddrives are cheap. The sweet spot (price/GB) is at around 500-750 GB.
(3) Install OS X onto your new drive and use Migration Assistant to copy your data to your new drive. (Again, do not clone your drive.)
(4) Wipe your old drive. Run some tests on it. If you have AppleCare, you should have received a copy of TechTool Pro.
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vx1og
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Apr 13, 2008 , 02:40 AM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
Startup using the OS X install disc and choose Disk Utility from the Tools menu. If the problems can't be repaired that way, Disk Warrior may be a good choice. However, with 500GB SATA drives going for $87, I also recommend getting a new drive. They're very simple to install in G5s and you'll be happier with more space. As for the freezes you've been experiencing, they may be hard drive related or due to some other issue. If you could show a panic log there may be more I could tell you.
panic log.. how?
     
seanc
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Apr 13, 2008 , 04:25 AM
 
You can open the panic.log (if you have them) files using Console. Do you ever get a grey screen telling you that you must restart your computer? Or a dialog box saying that OS X unexpectedly quit when you restart?

Also, what version of OS X are you running? It looks like 10.3 to me.
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vx1og
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Apr 13, 2008 , 12:31 PM
 
i have found out how to get to the panic log files.. but, what am i supposed to get from them? idk what any of that stuff means...

the problems you've mentioned i haven't encountered

i'm running 10.4.11
     
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Apr 13, 2008 , 12:37 PM
 
You can post the panic logs here and we may be able to see what's going wrong where.
     
misterdna
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Apr 13, 2008 , 05:31 PM
 
While I can't comment at the level of most people on this thread, I feel the desire to mention that my dual 2.7 G5 encountered similar looking First Aid errors before dying of a coolant leak (Apple replaced my computer). If yours is a water-cooled G5, I wonder if you want to try leaning the computer forward and seeing if any liquid drips out?

Okay, now back to guys how know how to interpret panic logs.
     
packet of krisps
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Apr 13, 2008 , 06:01 PM
 
Try to stay away from maxtor.

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seanc
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Apr 14, 2008 , 12:52 AM
 
Originally Posted by packet of krisps View Post
Try to stay away from maxtor.
I'd recommend Seagate and Seagate and Maxtor are now the same company.
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danbt79
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Apr 14, 2008 , 08:43 AM
 
I had the exact same problem with the hard drive in my PowerBook G4 about a year ago. Trying to fix the errors using Disk Utility was unsuccessful, as was trying to do it from CD. The only solution i found was to boot the PowerBook in Firewire target disk mode so that the hard drive was mounted on my other Mac. I then used Disk Utility and it repaired the disk perfectly.

By all means, do a complete backup as suggested to be on the safe side, but once my disk was repaired it's been perfect ever since, so I think suggestions that your drive may be on the way out are a little premature.

Best of luck!
     
packet of krisps
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Apr 14, 2008 , 06:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by seanc View Post
I'd recommend Seagate and Seagate and Maxtor are now the same company.
Ah, my bad, Seagate makes a fantastic drive, hopefully they will teach Maxtor their ways.

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chipchen
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Apr 16, 2008 , 11:40 AM
 
Like they said, back up first.

Another thing to try.. is DiskWarrior. This will help if the hard drive is not physically failing... (if it's physically failing all you can do is buy a new hard drive... Sometimes you can listen closely to the drive to see what types of noises it's making... that can be an indication of a bad drive.)

But back to DiskWarrior, it's one of the best utilities out there... and if DiskWarrior can't fix the problem, most likely, nothing else can. (again, DiskWarrior is mainly for file system / directory issues.)
     
reader50
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Apr 29, 2008 , 01:38 AM
 
Whoa, wait just a bit before buying stuff.

Under OSX, it is unreliable to verify the startup volume. You can get bogus errors because of disk caching. There may be nothing at all wrong with your hard drive.

Boot from the Install disk. Run the copy of Disk Utility on that disk, use it to check your regular HD. If the problems are still there, it should be able to repair them. The ones listed are not severe. They usually mean a file was deleted, but it's blocks were not released. If so, that would not cause any further problems at all.

However, it would be useful to track down the freeze issues. So yes, it would be good if you could post your panic log here for us to look over.
     
   
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