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Powerbook 17" and Lotus Notes
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Hi all,
I'm having a problem with the 17" Powerbook and Lotus Notes 6.01CF1.
I've installed Notes and attempted to configure a new port via user preferences, but the only communication devices which are detected by Notes are the internal modem and the bluetooth adaptor. The ethernet (or airport for that matter) is not detected at all.
Yes, they're enabled in Network Settings and yes, I'm on the LAN and everything else works fine.
As I understand it the 17" Airport card has caused some problems with some other network software (was it a probem with a VPN client?) and I udnerstand that it causes problems with Virtual Switch under VPC.... So I've got this nasty feeling that maybe Notes 6.01 just won't work in the 17"...
Does anyone out there have any Notes experience - anyone a bit of a guru?
Cheers,
Wet Jimmy.
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Originally posted by Wet Jimmy:
As I understand it the 17" Airport card has caused some problems with some other network software
Have you tried installing the updated AirPort (3.0.4)?
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Originally posted by DVD Plaza:
Have you tried installing the updated AirPort (3.0.4)?
Yeah, I've got the latest airport software installed, and still no joy  This is really frustrating - it's the last App I need to get going before I'm 100% Mac at work...
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Originally posted by Wet Jimmy:
Hi all,
I'm having a problem with the 17" Powerbook and Lotus Notes 6.01CF1.
I've installed Notes and attempted to configure a new port via user preferences, but the only communication devices which are detected by Notes are the internal modem and the bluetooth adaptor. The ethernet (or airport for that matter) is not detected at all.
Yes, they're enabled in Network Settings and yes, I'm on the LAN and everything else works fine.
As I understand it the 17" Airport card has caused some problems with some other network software (was it a probem with a VPN client?) and I udnerstand that it causes problems with Virtual Switch under VPC.... So I've got this nasty feeling that maybe Notes 6.01 just won't work in the 17"...
Does anyone out there have any Notes experience - anyone a bit of a guru?
Cheers,
Wet Jimmy.
You don't happen to work for IBM by any chance do you? Not looking to flame. Just genuine intrest since I may have the same problems you do.
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Originally posted by magness:
You don't happen to work for IBM by any chance do you? Not looking to flame. Just genuine intrest since I may have the same problems you do.
Hehe, No, I don't work for IBM - if I did I imagine I'd have a lot of tech support to get this problem fixed
No, the company I work for uses Lotus Notes for their email system. I'm sent an email to my contact at IBM, but thus far there's been no response.
I suppose I should head over to Apple and ask on their support page, too.
Anyway, I know Notes won't be an overly common package for most of you out there, but if anyone has any bright ideas, I'd love to hear them - Virtual XP is doing the trick for the time being, but obviously I'd rather not have to use it...
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Originally posted by Wet Jimmy:
Hehe, No, I don't work for IBM - if I did I imagine I'd have a lot of tech support to get this problem fixed 
No, the company I work for uses Lotus Notes for their email system. I'm sent an email to my contact at IBM, but thus far there's been no response.
I suppose I should head over to Apple and ask on their support page, too.
Anyway, I know Notes won't be an overly common package for most of you out there, but if anyone has any bright ideas, I'd love to hear them - Virtual XP is doing the trick for the time being, but obviously I'd rather not have to use it...
I've managed to get Virtual PC (running w2k) to connect to the notes server over out dialup connection. Just not through the network. Not being up on Mac - PC networking (only familiar with the odd file transfer) how did you manage too get a network connection. Are there any special provisions to get the Mac working on the network with the PC LAN?
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Hmm, I'm not sure why you are having that problem. I have been using Notes 6 on my PowerBook (Mac version -- not PC emulation) since November...just upgraded to 6.0.1 as of today, in fact.
For me, on configuration, it gave me the option of TCP/IP, which was perfect since I'm connecting to our Domino server always from outside the office intranet.
Have you tried (shudder) searching IBM's boards? I hate their web site with a passion, but sometimes if you search hard and long enough, you can find the answers to your questions.
Good luck...I feel your pain when it comes to configuring Notes. 
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Originally posted by John123:
Hmm, I'm not sure why you are having that problem. I have been using Notes 6 on my PowerBook (Mac version -- not PC emulation) since November...just upgraded to 6.0.1 as of today, in fact.
Tried their website, but as you say, it's nausea inducing....
I suspect it's a problem with the Powerbook 17's Airport card, though - just like with VPC where it screws up the Virtual Switch functionality. This may explain why you're up and running with no problems. It just simply does not recognise that there is an ethernet connection present.
HOPEFULLY there will be a patch or a workaround posted, but until then it looks like I'm S.O.L..
As for Magness's question - How did I get a network connection? Same way as always. Installed Virtual XP, told VPC to use the same Ethernet card as the Mac, and when I'm plugged into the work network (as I am now) Virtual XP picks up an IP Address via DHCP, and then I simply added my Virtual XP box to the Domain (handy to be a domain admin). It was pretty much Zero config (XP is great when you know what you're doing).
I have to say I'm SUPER IMPRESSED with Virtual PC, and VPC XP in particular - everything has worked perfectly (if slowly) - even the VPN software that we use to tunnel in to the work network externally. It runs flawlessly, which is really surprising considering the nature of VPN... and now that MS own VPC, I'm looking forward to speed improvements.
That being said, I'd still rather be able to use Notes natively within OSX...
Anyway, as more and more 17"ers make their way out the door, hoprefully more people will experience this problem and the someone smarter than myself can fix it 
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I just forwarded this on to one of my friends who is one of the developers. I'll let you know if I hear anything from him.
Good luck.
-- Jason
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Hi,
Check few settings first,
1. Go to Notes/Preferences/User Preferences, then to 'ports' tab, make sure tcp/ip is enabled:
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2. Also check your location document, to make sure that tcp/ip port is enabled.
Go to Notes/Preferences/Location preferences, then look at 'ports' tab, make sure tcp/ip is enabled.
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If that does not work you can try to run Client Reconfiguration Wizard. Go to Notes/Preferences/Client Reconfiguration Wizard to do so.
HTH
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Well I might as well spell the problem out with mine. Since I work for IBM, we're pretty much a PC based company (duuuh) and I don't think there's any provision for Macs. The only way into the network from outside is via something called IPDialer or AT&T Global dialer.
I managed to find a copy for the mac but I can't ping the bloody notes server addresses even with it dialed up. I've configured the DNS properly but there's no provision for WINS except for the SMB stuff. But I'm sure that's only used for file sharing. Like I said. My network knowledge isn't up to scratch as I'm a developer (VB / Powerbuilder).
I've also got a notes ID and a Desktop 5 dsk file as well which I wish to migrate across.
I can do it fine from VPC6 running win2k but I'd like to connect to it using native mac. Someone's mentioned DAVE as connection software but being the tight git I am I'm not keen to fork out $300 AU just for a convenence (not even gonna mention WAREZ here).
Since I'm on IBM's network I scammed (it;s actually legal if I use it for work purposes so no flames please) a copy of notes 6 for mac. All I gotta do is get it to work. Easy isn't it? I think I may be regretting buying Mac. Fear not though. I'm not about to give up yet.
Oh yes. Did I mention that were still using token ring? Any ideas or pointers?
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magness, what are u saying?
Are you trying to connect from outside or within local network?
There are couple of ways your domino server may be configured. It's really hard to say, you may be able to connect to it using server dialup (you dial directly to the server), or maybe VPN, check with someone there.
AT&T Global Dialer is used to connect to the web from anywhere in the world (heh, right..) as far as i know so this should not be a issue.
Here's how i see it:
1) Your server is visible under public IP.
You need to be connected to the internet, then you connect to it by it's IP. In this case it's IP may be different than IP you are using inside your LAN. You can create new connection document with that 'outside ip',
2) Your server is behind firewall and you need to connect using specific port which then is forwarded to Domino server.
3) You need to connect to your local LAN from the outside (using VPN for example) then you connect to domino using 'local ip'
Hard to say how it's configured.
We have it set-up so we have to use VPN to connect to it.
really hard to help u as you guys may have cluster of them and you need to cennect to a specific one (IBM is a pretty big, isn't it? :-) )
If you want you can PM me and we can try to make it work, but like i said your best bet is to ask domino admin about it.
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Originally posted by piwozniak:
Hi,
Check few settings first,
1. Go to Notes/Preferences/User Preferences, then to 'ports' tab, make sure tcp/ip is enabled:
See, that's exactly my problem - the TCP/IP port ISN'T enabled, all I have is a blank check box.
Wen I go into User Preferences / Ports and try to add a new Port, it picks ups the modem and the bluetooth, but no Ethernet.
It's driving me crazy.
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Originally posted by jasong:
I just forwarded this on to one of my friends who is one of the developers. I'll let you know if I hear anything from him.
Good luck.
-- Jason
Cheers! I'd love to see if anyone else with a 17" is experiencing this problem - it would be the easiest way to know for sure if it IS a problem with the Airport card similar to VPC...
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Originally posted by magness:
Sounds like you've got the Dialler software, but not the VPN software. Ain't no way you'll access your corporate netwrok unless you're VPN'ing in...
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Originally posted by magness:
Oh yes. Did I mention that were still using token ring? Any ideas or pointers?
IBM announced a few weeks back that they are finally retiring Token Ring and moving to Ethernet, so I'd say you won't have it in the next year or few.
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To tell you the honest trutth, I'm not too sure how VPN works. The dialler software works allright and I can ping the WINS servers from the network utility however, I can't seems to resolve the host names ie as to when i ping file servers / notes servers. I understand that there needs to be a VPN server on the other side as well and I don't think the IBM network has one.
piwozniak,
I'm trying to dial-in from the outside into the network using the att global dialer. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it but there's an option to connect using "secureip" which is what we normally use to connect to the network (from the outside via dialup) on the PC. I use the PC version on VPC6 and it seems to work fine (ie, I get to ping Notes servers (using name rather than direct ip address) etc via the command line).
You're dealing with a novice here unfortunately.. :-(
Using DAVE, I'm able to connect to some file servers but the names of the domino servers are still not resolving.
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Token Ring was taken out of the site I worked at over a year ago. Ethernet and 802.11b were installed.
The IBM VPN at the site I worked at was not compatible with IPsec and other standard VPN implementations. This was due to a divergence in the standard when it was being created. The way around this was to set up a win98 box as a router, having it make the VPN connection and then route that connection over ethernet to the Mac.
search the internal web sites for Laurence Marks' site or email lmarks at us.ibm.com and ask for the site on dealing with this problem.
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Thanks for that. I'll have a look when I get on the intranet. I doubt that setting up a router on my box (win2k) at work will be kosher with the network admin since it may consitute a security risk with the network. I may have to stick with VPC6 for now. Sofar it's acceptable for now since I only use it for systems maintenance. I just wanted to log on to use Notes on the mac rather than VPC notes. So much for IBM being the foorefront of technology.....
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Actually, win98 wasn't a supported platform at the site I was at. Win95, NT4.0, or 2000. no 98, no XP. But it was okay to set up a 98 machine, just not ask for support on it.
As far as a router goes, people had set them up.
But definitely look for the site on the intranet, you might find it useful for connecting from home and using the mac client.
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Originally posted by vmarks:
Actually, win98 wasn't a supported platform at the site I was at. Win95, NT4.0, or 2000. no 98, no XP. But it was okay to set up a 98 machine, just not ask for support on it.
As far as a router goes, people had set them up.
But definitely look for the site on the intranet, you might find it useful for connecting from home and using the mac client.
Thanks again dude. Will look on the IBM intranet for it. BTW, if you're reading thie wet jimmy, sorry about usurping your posting. Have a VB on me.. (Virtual Bitter that is ...  )
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