[Parrot]

Thought these may be of interest


First iBook 800/12"/30G HD/640 RAM

Results 50.49
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0
System Version 10.2.5
Physical RAM 640 MB
Model PowerBook4,3
Processor PowerPC G3 @ 800 MHz
Version 750FX v2.2
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 800 MHz
Bus Frequency 100 MHz
Video Card ATY,RageM7
Drive Type IBM-IC25N030ATCS04-0
CPU Test 84.44
GCD Recursion 75.42 2.95 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 71.06 239.51 Mflop/sec
Floating Point Library 122.02 5.48 Mops/sec
Thread Test 60.69
Computation 49.52 398.92 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 78.38 983.99 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 29.27
System 25.26
Allocate 145.85 49.17 Kalloc/sec
Fill 24.91 142.84 MB/sec
Copy 13.94 69.70 MB/sec
Stream 34.79
Copy 34.92 152.69 MB/sec
Scale 34.96 152.55 MB/sec
Add 34.12 155.25 MB/sec
Triad 35.19 154.64 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 73.78
Line 78.73 2.00 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 75.06 5.28 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 90.03 2.08 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 75.97 825.52 beziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 57.21 932.50 chars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 54.82
Spinning Squares 54.82 38.36 frames/sec
User Interface Test 59.92
Elements 59.92 20.39 refresh/sec
Disk Test 36.15
Sequential 37.54
Uncached Write 32.29 14.09 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 32.19 13.10 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 77.98 12.28 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 31.55 13.61 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 34.85
Uncached Write 22.43 0.34 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 35.98 8.25 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 51.96 0.34 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 43.19 8.47 MB/sec [256K blocks]




Now.. iBook 900/12"/60G HD/640 RAM

Results 64.25
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0
System Version 10.2.6
Physical RAM 640 MB
Model PowerBook4,3
Processor PowerPC G3 @ 900 MHz
Version 750FX v2.3
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 900 MHz
Bus Frequency 100 MHz
Video Card ATY,RageM7
Drive Type FUJITSU MHS2060AT
CPU Test 97.76
GCD Recursion 90.09 3.52 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 80.83 272.50 Mflop/sec
Floating Point Library 138.58 6.22 Mops/sec
Thread Test 70.96
Computation 57.82 465.84 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 91.82 1.15 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 37.81
System 31.41
Allocate 172.38 58.12 Kalloc/sec
Fill 25.73 147.57 MB/sec
Copy 19.67 98.33 MB/sec
Stream 47.48
Copy 49.74 217.53 MB/sec
Scale 49.41 215.60 MB/sec
Add 44.52 202.57 MB/sec
Triad 46.65 204.97 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 93.11
Line 85.69 2.18 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 97.76 6.88 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 107.54 2.48 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 94.01 1.02 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 84.28 1.37 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 61.96
Spinning Squares 61.96 43.36 frames/sec
User Interface Test 73.32
Elements 73.32 24.95 refresh/sec
Disk Test 56.65
Sequential 54.30
Uncached Write 51.36 22.41 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 51.72 21.04 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 67.87 10.69 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 49.71 21.45 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 59.21
Uncached Write 74.11 1.12 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 50.41 11.56 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 58.58 0.38 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 58.28 11.42 MB/sec [256K blocks]



The overall speed improvment (28%) is greater than the processor speed increase (12.5%). The new FUJITSU HD seems much faster than the old IBM one in the iBook 800.

[wataru]

Yeah, the biggest jump there is in the disk. Makes me want to upgrade mine... Damn Apple for not making the iBook's disk user-upgradeable!

[bernt]

Originally posted by Parrot:
Thought these may be of interest


First iBook 800/12"/30G HD/640 RAM

Quartz Graphics Test 73.78
OpenGL Graphics Test 54.82

Now.. iBook 900/12"/60G HD/640 RAM

Quartz Graphics Test 93.11
OpenGL Graphics Test 61.96

Don't they use exactly the same graphic card? Howcome the big differences in graphic performance?

erlend

[biposto]

Maybe cause the 800 isnt running 10.2.6 like the 900? didnt x.2.6 update open gl or something?

ps my iBook has a Toshiba hard disk and with APM Tuner X on max performance I get better scores in x-bench (which by itself gives different scores everytime you run it)

[Parrot]

Can't really explain the difference in graphics performance. I also thought the video card's were similar. Perhaps they've changed some other hardware that interfaces with the video card.

The improved hard disk performance is a surprise. I went for the 60G because it only costs another $AUD 100 (Australia dollars) more.

The other difference is the casing. As mentioned elsewhere the new iBook's outer shell is solid white rather than clear with white painted on the inside. The plastic around the keyboard and trackpad is now a bright white rather than a grey and has a rougher texture. The screen hinge now has a white plastic rather than metal cover. Overall I think the new casing looks a bit better and maybe more durable.

I'd be interested how iBook 900 benchmark compares to a 12" powerbook.

[Parrot]

Originally posted by biposto:
..ps my iBook has a Toshiba hard disk and with APM Tuner X on max performance)

What's APM Tuner X?

[rytc]

Originally posted by Parrot:
What's APM Tuner X?

Google it.......

or look here
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/6435

[Parrot]

I managed to get a copy of APM Tuner X. Unfortunately it won't let me change the settings of the iBook 900/60G's hard drive

[biposto]

Originally posted by Parrot:
I managed to get a copy of APM Tuner X. Unfortunately it won't let me change the settings of the iBook 900/60G's hard drive

It's prob because of your Fujitsu disk not being compatible, my Toshiba disk works fine with it.
btw can you hear the fujitsu's head movement? or is it quiet

[Parrot]

The Fujitsu HD is pretty quiet. Probably quieter than the IBM drive in my old iBook 800.

[alien]

Originally posted by Parrot:
Can't really explain the difference in graphics performance. I also thought the video card's were similar. Perhaps they've changed some other hardware that interfaces with the video card.

The card is the same, but the Radeon 7500 on the newest iBook has DDR RAM. The older has SDR RAM.

[dettociao]

I get a 55.1 with my iBook 800 and the same specs.

[olli2]

Originally posted by Parrot:
Thought these may be of interest


First iBook 800/12"/30G HD/640 RAM

Quartz Graphics Test 73.78
OpenGL Graphics Test 54.82

Now.. iBook 900/12"/60G HD/640 RAM

Quartz Graphics Test 93.11
OpenGL Graphics Test 61.96

And what do you think, what Quartz and OpenGL score would mean a snappy (I mean really snappy) OS X feeling in menues, open/close windows, etc? I don't mean photoshop stuff, I only need a system that responds fast.

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by wataru:
Yeah, the biggest jump there is in the disk. Makes me want to upgrade mine... Damn Apple for not making the iBook's disk user-upgradeable!

They're pretty easy to upgrade, actually. I could walk you through it.

[billybob128]

jyst ran x bench ffor the first time so i need some help figuring it out:
1. it thought my iBook was a powerbook
2. where is the overall score
3. is higher score better or worse

[StayWhatYouAre]

Hey,

From what i've read.

1) The ibook is based on the 'G3' old powerbook - hence the xbench name of 'powerbook'.

2) overall score is the very first number at the top of the xbench output.

3) higher is better.

[BigDaddy]

None of your systems are as fast as my iBook 300.

[Peter]

Just thought I would add my 700, so we know have 700, 800 & 900 all with 640Mb Ram....

Results 47.73
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0
System Version 10.2.6
Physical RAM 640 MB
Model PowerBook4,3
Processor PowerPC G3 @ 700 MHz
Version 750FX v1.2
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 700 MHz
Bus Frequency 100 MHz
Video Card ATY,RageM6
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK2018GAS
CPU Test 72.57
GCD Recursion 64.59 2.52 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 60.53 204.01 Mflop/sec
Floating Point Library 107.09 4.81 Mops/sec
Thread Test 51.15
Computation 42.57 342.99 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 64.05 804.06 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 29.01
System 24.67
Allocate 118.34 39.90 Kalloc/sec
Fill 24.06 137.99 MB/sec
Copy 13.97 69.83 MB/sec
Stream 35.21
Copy 35.73 156.24 MB/sec
Scale 33.58 146.51 MB/sec
Add 35.06 159.54 MB/sec
Triad 36.60 160.81 MB/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 82.88
Spinning Squares 82.88 58.00 frames/sec
User Interface Test 58.48
Elements 58.48 19.90 refresh/sec
Disk Test 34.79
Sequential 37.89
Uncached Write 31.26 13.64 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 33.60 13.67 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 78.02 12.29 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 32.25 13.91 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 32.16
Uncached Write 20.62 0.31 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 32.75 7.51 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 46.27 0.30 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 42.18 8.27 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[billybob128]

Results 47.69
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0
System Version 10.2.6
Physical RAM 640 MB
Model PowerBook4,3
Processor PowerPC G3 @ 800 MHz
Version 750FX v2.2
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 800 MHz
Bus Frequency 100 MHz
Video Card ATY,RageM7
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK3018GAS
CPU Test 61.65
GCD Recursion 60.59 2.37 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 47.05 158.59 Mflop/sec
Floating Point Library 91.67 4.12 Mops/sec

Quartz Graphics Test 72.17
Line 77.33 1.97 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 65.31 4.59 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 64.52 1.49 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 81.83 889.13 beziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 75.09 1.22 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 55.45
Spinning Squares 55.45 38.81 frames/sec


so it seems that the 700 is slightly faster than my 800

[SammytheMac]

The test seem to vary quite a bit. I have an 800 with only 384 memory and got a 52 score. I think it is funny that when you submit your score, they compare your score against a dual 1g machine instead of something similar.

Sammythe Mac

[daimoni]

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