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PB17 trackpad and Logitech mouse drivers
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May 19, 2003, 12:19 PM
 
I recently installed Logitech mouse drivers on my PB17 to get a little more muscle out of my optical mouse (damn thing was slow moving across the football field of a screen). Unfortunately, my preference of having the trackpad be ignored while a mouse is present is no longer having an effect. I can still trick the trackpad while typing... I do use a Marware keyboard cover that I place over the trackpad while the PB17 is in use, which helps. I also turned down the speed of the trackpad so even little brushes against the pad won't jog it too much... Is there something I can do to regain my "ignore trackpad while mouse is present" setting while keeping the logitech drivers, and not settling for USB Overdrive (something like a $20 shareware)???

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May 19, 2003, 01:24 PM
 
That option should only work with Apple mice. I'm surprised that with the Logitech mouse and the built in drivers that it even worked. Do people really have this many problems touching the trackpad while typing? I keep my hands curved with thumbs in the air typing, using my right thumb to hit the space bar. My hands are inches from the trackpad in all directions. I've never hit the trackpad while typing.

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May 19, 2003, 01:44 PM
 
Originally posted by ibook_steve:
That option should only work with Apple mice. I'm surprised that with the Logitech mouse and the built in drivers that it even worked. Do people really have this many problems touching the trackpad while typing? I keep my hands curved with thumbs in the air typing, using my right thumb to hit the space bar. My hands are inches from the trackpad in all directions. I've never hit the trackpad while typing.

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i use a high desk, so my wrists can tend to rub the trackpad. sometimes my thumbs do.
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May 19, 2003, 02:06 PM
 
I had the same problem, and I never did find a solution. I eventually just sucked it up and went for USB Overdrive. I've heard that Microsoft's mouse drivers have the same problem, but have no first hand experience.

I wish Logitech's mice had a sensitivity adjustment on the mouse itself like Apple's mice do.
     
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May 19, 2003, 02:08 PM
 
Originally posted by geekwagon:
I had the same problem, and I never did find a solution. I eventually just sucked it up and went for USB Overdrive. I've heard that Microsoft's mouse drivers have the same problem, but have no first hand experience.

I wish Logitech's mice had a sensitivity adjustment on the mouse itself like Apple's mice do.
yes... ditto on that....

so USB overdrive is worth it....?


what is the safest way to remove the logitech drivers?
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May 19, 2003, 04:37 PM
 
Originally posted by djjava:
yes... ditto on that....

so USB overdrive is worth it....?


what is the safest way to remove the logitech drivers?
I like it, and the nagware is really unobtrusive (one message at login..) so you can give it a good try before you decide.

To remove the logitech drivers, download the drivers again (assuming you don't still have the disk image anymore) and an uninstaller is included. That's what I did and all worked fine.

The nice thing about USB Overdrive is that it doesn't replace the kext that controls your mouse and keyboard like the Logitech and MS drivers do. It just tweaks the settings a bit. So, as Apple changes things in the driver (and they have changed things a bit, even since Jag was released) you can take advantage of all that stuff. For example, when you have the Logitech drivers installed, the option "Disable trackpad when typing" doesn't even show up.
     
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May 19, 2003, 04:41 PM
 
Originally posted by geekwagon:
I like it, and the nagware is really unobtrusive (one message at login..) so you can give it a good try before you decide.

To remove the logitech drivers, download the drivers again (assuming you don't still have the disk image anymore) and an uninstaller is included. That's what I did and all worked fine.

The nice thing about USB Overdrive is that it doesn't replace the kext that controls your mouse and keyboard like the Logitech and MS drivers do. It just tweaks the settings a bit. So, as Apple changes things in the driver (and they have changed things a bit, even since Jag was released) you can take advantage of all that stuff. For example, when you have the Logitech drivers installed, the option "Disable trackpad when typing" doesn't even show up.
only a nag screen at login??? not so bad... I usually sleep my machine anyway.... thanks for the good insight......
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May 19, 2003, 08:31 PM
 
Originally posted by ibook_steve:
That option should only work with Apple mice. I'm surprised that with the Logitech mouse and the built in drivers that it even worked. Do people really have this many problems touching the trackpad while typing? I keep my hands curved with thumbs in the air typing, using my right thumb to hit the space bar. My hands are inches from the trackpad in all directions. I've never hit the trackpad while typing.

Steve
Not quite, Steve.

The option to ignore the trackpad when a mouse is connected works with my logitech, kensington, and MS mice, provided I do not install any drivers. Simply connect the mouse, and that option is present and works.

The option disappears when he installs logitech drivers.

And yes, my palms and the heel of my thumbs will brush the trackpad while I type. I've even had them select text for me, which is really problematic, since having them select text and then me continue typing means I type over text I intended to keep. The option to ignore the trackpad while typing has come in great handy for me.

It isn't a piano, it has palmrests- and I use them. Your hand posture is well suited to piano playing, but mine is lazy and my wrists sag down.
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May 19, 2003, 09:32 PM
 
Originally posted by geekwagon:
I like it, and the nagware is really unobtrusive (one message at login..) so you can give it a good try before you decide.

To remove the logitech drivers, download the drivers again (assuming you don't still have the disk image anymore) and an uninstaller is included. That's what I did and all worked fine.

The nice thing about USB Overdrive is that it doesn't replace the kext that controls your mouse and keyboard like the Logitech and MS drivers do. It just tweaks the settings a bit. So, as Apple changes things in the driver (and they have changed things a bit, even since Jag was released) you can take advantage of all that stuff. For example, when you have the Logitech drivers installed, the option "Disable trackpad when typing" doesn't even show up.
i just installed USB Overdrive... it's amazing!!! So much better than the Logitech drivers... and definately worth the shareware fee.... Highly recommend!!
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May 20, 2003, 07:09 AM
 
FWIW, my Kensington PocketMouse Pro Wireless allows the trackpad disable with the drivers installed.

If your looking for something portable with no wires, check it out.
     
   
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