[acadian]

Seems like a possibility:



The Register

[The Placid Casual]

If you believed The Register, you would have typed your message on a G5 8500 machine clocking at 2.4ghz, which you would have been running since last October...

They are even worse than rumour sites as they have a veneer of respectability. And are NEVER right! (Search their site if you don't believe me...)

Trust No One.

We may have Moto chips further down the line, then again we may not. I suspect no one outside the 'inner circle' knows for sure. (except maybe Moki )

If Moto put a decent FSB on the chip, real DDR, shrink to a 0.13 process and get a 50% speed increase what would the problem be?

If we get a 970, cool, but don't hold your breath.

If we get a Mojave derivitive, again cool.

Either way we win.

If Moto deliver, fine. If not, we don't use them. Simple business decision. Vitriol no included.

Peace,

Marc

*Please note this message has been moderated by the 'Motorola 'Hate Filter' Version 1'*

[Commodus]

That's not such a surprise. There's been no word as to whether or not the PPC 970 as of now would allow for any sort of power-saving functions (such as dropping the clock speed). At 1.2 GHz it doesn't draw a whole lot of power (around 19-20 watts, typically) but we don't know if it would be cool enough at that speed.

Most predictions I've seen would peg PPC 970 laptops as arriving in early 2004, around when IBM would have the chip manufactured on a 0.09-micron process that would be more than cool enough.

I can only imagine the reaction, though, if Apple was able to pull a rabbit out of its hat in 2003 and give us our 64-bit laptops.

[BluThng]

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030602/nym082_1.html

AUSTIN, Texas, June 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT - News) has delivered some of the first volume shipments of microprocessors produced using a low-k insulating dielectric during the metallization process. Motorola has applied this process to PowerPC microprocessor products including the G4 PowerPC processor, Motorola's MPC 7455 and the recently introduced 7457. Products manufactured with this method run up to 20 percent faster and at lower power than those made without it while maintaining high yields and reliability.

[Eug]

Originally posted by BluThng:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030602/nym082_1.html

AUSTIN, Texas, June 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT - News) has delivered some of the first volume shipments of microprocessors produced using a low-k insulating dielectric during the metallization process. Motorola has applied this process to PowerPC microprocessor products including the G4 PowerPC processor, Motorola's MPC 7455 and the recently introduced 7457. Products manufactured with this method run up to 20 percent faster and at lower power than those made without it while maintaining high yields and reliability.

Yep, this is good news (not bad news as many PPC 970 zealots may think). A plain 1.25 GHz G4 7455 would be getting a little too warm for a PowerBook, but a 0.18 um SOI Low-K 7455 would be a nice chip for the next PB revision. A 0.13 um SOI Low-K 7457 might be slightly better.

A 1.2 GHz PPC 970 would also be a little too warm too at 19 W typical, compared to the 15 W typical produced by the 1 GHz non-Low-K 7455. This latter chip is what is in the current TiBook and 17" AluBook.

If Motorola's Low-K claims are true, a 1.25 or 1.3 GHz 0.13 um SOI Low-K 7457 might be closer to the old 7455 1 GHz's power specs.

And the biggest plus of all, the new chips are drop-in compatible with the older motherboard designs. ie. Take a 17", rip out the 7455 1 GHz and drop in a 1.3 GHz 7457 and you're ready to go. No radical new motherboard design required, unlike what would be required for the PPC 970.

I've always said the next PB revision would bring just faster G4s, and I think this is more evidence pointing in that direction. No PPC 970 based chips in PowerBooks for quite some time.

[SEkker]

If I were Apple, I'd encourage the competition between Moto and IBM. In the best of both both scenario, having G4 derivatives for low power uses and a hot, high revving 970 for desktops would make many Apple users very happy.

I like my G4 PB, but there is not too much point in raising the CPU speed if it would kill battery life and still be crippled by this 4200 rpm HD.

[Superchicken]

SO when would these chips be in the Power Books? A 1Ghz 12 inch PB wounds sweet right about now.. esspecially with the recent price drop