[ChadC]

My dad gave me his old 500mhz IceBook(Rev. A I believe), running 10.2.4. Last night I opened the finder and got the forever spinning beach ball. After about a half hour I decided to manually power it down. I held the power button till it turned off. I then tried to restart it and nothing. Plugged in the power and tried again to restart. This time it starts, goes to the gray screen with the apple for about 10 minutes then goes to Darwin. But Darwin on the command line, OSX doesn't even load. But when it goes to Darwin it says "Welcome to Darwin" and then asks for my login. I put that in then it asks for my password. Then nothing. And that's it.

In the past my dad thought he lost the hard drive(about 6 months ago) but he brought it to the Apple store and they booted the comp off an external drive adn cleaned out his drive. It turned out the drive was just to full(like 98%) and that was the only problem. But, I don't have the cash to spend at the Apple Store Support Bar.

I have a Peerless firewire HD with OS 9 on it as well as the discs for OS 10.2 but the only problems are I don't know how to boot off an external firewire drive(either Peerless or Lacie CD-Drive). Or if that would even work.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx,
ChadC

[The Placid Casual]

Put a 10.2 CD in the drive and try to boot up holding the 'c' button down.

If you get any luck, run 'disk utility' and also fix permissions.

Restart the machine.

If it doesn't work, post again, and tell us what happened...

[ChadC]

I am able to connect it to my PowerMac as a targeted Hard Drive. I open the disk utility and the only option it allows me to click is the Verfiy Disk option. I Click it and this is what I got

Verifying disk "hard drive".
Checking HFS Plus volume.
Checking Extents Overflow file.
Checking Catalog file.
Overlapped extent allocation (file 777939d)
Checking multi-linked files.
Checking Catalog hierarchy.
Checking volume bitmap.
Checking volume information.
Invalid volume file count
(It should be 130724 instead of 130725)
The volume hard drive needs to be repaired.
Verify completed.

Overlapped line, Invalid line, (It should line and The volume line all came out in red.

it says it needs to be repiared but it still wont' let me click that button... any ideas?

-ChadC

[rytc]

Booting up off the Jag install CD as Placid Casual has described above should allow you to fix the hard disk using First Aid. You can also trying starting up in single user mode by holding command and S down when you restart and enter fsck -y at the command prompt. See here for more info about commands you can enter.
http://www.westwind.com/reference/OS...ngle-user.html
In both cases you should keep running the First Aid programme until it doesn't find any more errors. If you have access to Disk Warrior running that over the Disk when it's mounted in Target Disk mode should sort out any problems.
Good Luck
Cheers Ry

[davidcarr]

I think you best option would be to insert the OS 10.2 CD, hold down the C key to boot from the CD, and do a clean install perserving all your preferences.

[milhouse]

Can you boot into open firmware and run "fsck -y" ?

At startup hold down the command + option + O + F keys.

At the command prompt type (no quotes):
"fsck -y"

(there's a space between the k and the -)


It's a filesystem check and the -y is to allow it to make repairs with out having to respond to the OS.

run fsck -y again till it reports no errors.

I think you type reboot or macboot afterwards to boot into OS X...I forget what I actually type (I just do it...)


good luck

[ChadC]

thanx for the help everyone. I think the problem is fixed. I'll walk through it. My internal CD-Drive is dead, so booting up from that wasn't possible. What I ended up doing was targeting the iBook hard drive as a FireWire HD on my G4(as I said before). From there I ran the Disk Utility, verify/repaired permissions and disk. After that I ran diskwarrior on the drive. Next step was to Reinstall Jaguar(archive and preserve users). Now I am back in and working fine, or so I think. I then start updating(Safari, Quicktime, 10.2.6) and after the restart from updating I am back to square one. At the command line. So i repeat the whole process up to the upgrading. From there I feel around, log in, log out, go through folders, open/close programs, etc. I find out that I can't access my Applications folder. So I then boot to OS 9, from there I can get into the folder. I move out all the contents into a new folder and reboot into OS X. At the point I can get into the Applications but not the new folder where all of the Applications are. From there I moved the apps from the new folder to the Applcations folder one by one in OS 9 and then going back to OS X to open the folder until I pinpointed which app was causing the problem. It turned out to be iPulse. So i deleted it in 9 and fixed everything up in X. What was happening was when the Hard Disk or I tried to edit, open, or even access the Applications folder the X would start writing to the disk and then the iPulse would for some reason cause the problem. Thus ending up in the X not being able to finish writing and ending up in the error above.

In any case does anybody know how to delete my old systems. When you reinstall OS X and chose Archive and Reinstall it saves the old system files but I dont need them and it tells me I cant delete them because I dont have "root access."

Thanx,
ChadC