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Ryan1524 · Sep 20, 2003, 01:25 AM

i don't think it has an off switch thou...or does it...?
but who cares, throw it in the cradle every night before you go to bed and it'll be fine for the whole day, even if you use it's constantly on.

Logitech MX900

Luca Rescigno · Sep 20, 2003, 02:51 AM

I don't see the point of this one over the MX700 if they require the same amount of cords and the same large base station. Yeah having a charging cradle is nice so you don't run out of batteries, but on the other hand those cradles require a USB cord AND a power cord, and I thought the point of bluetooth mice was to eliminate the cords entirely by having the bluetooth adapter be part of your computer (or a little stub sticking out of a USB port). This one is just as bulky as the RF-tracking MX700, and it costs a lot more as well.

Link · Sep 20, 2003, 04:15 AM

But the MX900 CAN be used with the powerbook.. probably without the base station.

You could simply keep it at home for charging, much like cellphone docks and the ipod dock!

I found a great deal on the MX duo and will probably be getting that.. it's wireless.. and while the keyboard isn't nearly as favorable as the apple keyboard (those keys are incredible), it's cheap, only a few bucks more then apple's wireless MOUSE and I get both the keyboard AND the mouse....

and since I use a desktop I see no reason to have bluetooth right now, I don't have a bluetooth phone and no real use for one (perhaps in the future).

So my choices:

1. apple wireless keyboard and mouse, dlink adapter: $199

2. Logitech MX900 and apple wireless keyboard (if the keyboard works with that base): $168

3. Logitech MX duo: less then $80

The MS keyboard is nice but I'm not even considering it since 1. I hate MS products, and 2. If I recall correctly the pageup/down/etc keys are misaligned and they are crucial for my gameplay

So yeah.. I was really wanting the apple/MX900 combo but it's still $70 more then I need to pay.. except that when I replace my t720 with a bluetooth phone i could have some REAL fun.

But when I get the phone I can put $35 or so into a bluetooth dongle, that puts my total investment up to $115

Still $50 cheaper then the MX900 and apple keyboard.

There's also the fact my house relies greatly on the 802.11b/g network. Bluetooth + 802.11b = trouble while neglegable on seperate boxes.

Ryan1524 · Sep 20, 2003, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
I don't see the point of this one over the MX700 if they require the same amount of cords and the same large base station. Yeah having a charging cradle is nice so you don't run out of batteries, but on the other hand those cradles require a USB cord AND a power cord, and I thought the point of bluetooth mice was to eliminate the cords entirely by having the bluetooth adapter be part of your computer (or a little stub sticking out of a USB port). This one is just as bulky as the RF-tracking MX700, and it costs a lot more as well.

you're missing the point, by this being Bluetooth, it doesn't require the base. sure it might not have a 3 months batt life, but the standard batteries can last you a good 3-4 days before it starts beeping. that means even if you put it in your bag still on for the whole day, it will still have enough juice for 3-4 days and certainly enough for you to go home and throw it in the base.

witha 2100mah NI-MH, it can last 21 days. or more... so the base is a non-issue me thinks..

thirsty · Sep 20, 2003, 11:32 AM

It's also being missed that the cradle acts as a Bluetooth hub for any other Bluetooth enabled devices you may have. It's your Bluetooth adaptor and recharger all in one. And aimed at people who don't already have Bluetooth on their computers.
I think it's great and will now be seriously considering one to replece my MX 500.

schk · Sep 20, 2003, 11:52 AM

I think the MX900 is a perfect alternative to the one button mouse. People are complaining about more cords to deal with, but since BT is built into the PB, I the base function will act properly as a charger only with just the AC cord plugged into an outlet (the person above claiming the need for both AC cord and USB to charge is incorrect, the AC adapter replaces the need to draw power from the USB port). I find placing a mouse in a charger more convenient than using rechargeable batteries with the Apple BT mouse.

PeterKG · Sep 20, 2003, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by schk:
I think the MX900 is a perfect alternative to the one button mouse. People are complaining about more cords to deal with, but since BT is built into the PB, I the base function will act properly as a charger only with just the AC cord plugged into an outlet (the person above claiming the need for both AC cord and USB to charge is incorrect, the AC adapter replaces the need to draw power from the USB port). I find placing a mouse in a charger more convenient than using rechargeable batteries with the Apple BT mouse.

How will you program the mouse if there is no
Mac compatible sooftware?

RooneyX · Sep 20, 2003, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by PeterKG:
How will you program the mouse if there is no
Mac compatible sooftware?

In Windows (I know, I know) the joystick control panel allows you to set up a device with all sorts of buttons and controls even if Windows doesn't recognise the device by name. If only the mouse prefs in OSX allowed you to configure a generic device with a definable number of buttons.

ratlater · Sep 20, 2003, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by PeterKG:
How will you program the mouse if there is no
Mac compatible sooftware?

I'm guessing the Logitech Control Center will work and there is USB Overdrive which I use with my MX700. The MX700 and MX900 are identical in all things but connectivity method, so I think software won't be an issue.

-matt

Luca Rescigno · Sep 20, 2003, 07:40 PM

I didn't realize the MX900 would work with any bluetooth-enabled computer. Because there were some reports of the D-link USB-Bluetooth dongles not working with Apple's new wireless kb/mouse, I thought that perhaps the Logitech MX900 required Logitech's supplied Bluetooth cradle thing. Good to hear it doesn't!

I do hope they make sure it's Mac-compatible, though, because right now I think the only Mac bluetooth mice are the Apple and the MS, and I like Logitech's mice more. Of course, I don't have bluetooth on my computer and I just use a corded MX500 anyway, but it would be cool to see more Mac-compatible bluetooth mice.

schk · Sep 20, 2003, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
I didn't realize the MX900 would work with any bluetooth-enabled computer. Because there were some reports of the D-link USB-Bluetooth dongles not working with Apple's new wireless kb/mouse, I thought that perhaps the Logitech MX900 required Logitech's supplied Bluetooth cradle thing. Good to hear it doesn't!

I do hope they make sure it's Mac-compatible, though, because right now I think the only Mac bluetooth mice are the Apple and the MS, and I like Logitech's mice more. Of course, I don't have bluetooth on my computer and I just use a corded MX500 anyway, but it would be cool to see more Mac-compatible bluetooth mice.

I forgot to mention in my earlier post that the MX900 would be a great choice IF it will work w/ the built in bluetooth on the new PBs. Of course it's just speculation right now, but BT is at the point where manufacturers are complying to standards so there's no reason it should require the base station. Also, the fact the base station is meant to work with other BT devices makes that reasoning more plausible as well.

I believe the compatiblity w/ the Dlink adapters only concern the first revision adapters (back when there were very few BT devices out). Someone posted translations of a logitech description where it mentioned support for PC and Macs, but so far the US site only mentions PC support.

cc_foo · Sep 20, 2003, 08:13 PM

My concern is, will the BT stuff work before the OS is loaded? i.e. will holding down the mouse button as the computer is running, eject a CD, or holding down the "shift" key or "T" key, or "command-option-P-R" work on a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse? What about Open Firmware?

On a notebook, those can be replicated by the internal keyboard, and trackpad button, but on a desktop.... could be a problem.

Any comments?

schk · Sep 20, 2003, 08:18 PM

Ah, never thought about that. I guess you can post in the topics where people recieved their keyboards and ask them to test it out. That would be a big thing to overlook though, so it should work.

:dragonflypro: · Sep 20, 2003, 08:34 PM

Logitech does not list Mac compatibility with the MX 900 at all...

Short of someone buying one and trying and confirming it works, well...until Logitech changes the spec I ain't blowing 100 bucks ( if ever ) on a mouse just because it is cordless.

A $39.00 MX 500 with no lag works just fine, thanks

toby

blot · Sep 21, 2003, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by :dragonflypro::
Logitech does not list Mac compatibility with the MX 900 at all...

Short of someone buying one and trying and confirming it works, well...until Logitech changes the spec I ain't blowing 100 bucks ( if ever ) on a mouse just because it is cordless.

A $39.00 MX 500 with no lag works just fine, thanks

toby

This link to logitech seems to confirm that the MX900 BT mouse will not be compatible with Mac.

http://www.logitech.com/products/com...p;languageid=1

My guess it will be exactly like the MS BT mouse where you will not be able to program the extra buttons.

The MX900 BT mouse installation guide seems to imply that one can put in regular AA batteries to power the mouse - there is a removable cover to place the 2 AA NiMH batteries.

The Placid Casual · Sep 21, 2003, 06:22 AM

I have an MX700.

Best. Mouse. Ever.

Nothing even comes close.

If they do get a bluetooth MX900 one out that is OS X savvy (I have no doubt at all that they will), I'll buy one in a heartbeat...

Peace,

Marc

nobitacu · Sep 21, 2003, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by The Placid Casual:
I have an MX700.

Best. Mouse. Ever.

Nothing even comes close.

If they do get a bluetooth MX900 one out that is OS X savvy (I have no doubt at all that they will), I'll buy one in a heartbeat...

Peace,

Marc

Same here, I'm using the same mouse as you too.

ratlater · Sep 21, 2003, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by nobitacu:
Same here, I'm using the same mouse as you too.

Me too, I really really really hope the MX900 works well with a Mac.

-matt

Ryan1524 · Sep 22, 2003, 01:50 AM

for those wondering if this mouse is supported by OS X, if you go to the Logitech site, and sort the mouse products by platform and choose 'mac', the MX900 is listed in there. so i'm pretty sure it'll be supported.

( http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?pa...p;languageid=1)

look at the navigation directory tree near the top.

Luca Rescigno · Sep 22, 2003, 01:56 AM

But on the product page itself, it only says Windows 2000 and XP.

I think a call to Logitech is in order. Not that anyone you could talk to there would know

slugslugslug · Sep 22, 2003, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
But on the product page itself, it only says Windows 2000 and XP.

I think a call to Logitech is in order. Not that anyone you could talk to there would know

Well, if the thing shows up in stores anytime soon, maybe someone could just take their 'book over to a Best Buy and ask to try out one of the mouses..

I would if I had BT on my Ti..

Ryan1524 · Sep 22, 2003, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
But on the product page itself, it only says Windows 2000 and XP.

I think a call to Logitech is in order. Not that anyone you could talk to there would know

sometimes even the website can be wrong...but who knows...
the Logitech FAQ says that NI-MH batts doesn't have Memory effect at all. this could be a similar lapse. at least i hope so..