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Daniel Bayer · 12:52 AM

**I had written the following before I did the ram chip boogie and found out that I had a bad stick of Ramjet.***

The OS 10.2.8 battery readout "Fix" has had a very adverse effect on the alu series power managment system. You will experience full grey screen kernal panics in wake up from sleep if you have it plugged in before putting it to sleep and wake it up without the plug still in...and vise versa. You will also have the same result if you try to adjust your power setting in System preferences with another app running.

10.2.8 has really been Apple worst OS 10 update.

You will need to revert back to whatever you were using before, 10.2.6 or 10.2.7.

Period!

Luckily, I always carbon copy clone a complete computer with the install disk version on it on to a hot pluggable firewire drive for this very reason.

I had to revert my 17, 1.33 back to 2.7 today....absolute BS!!

I will wait for my copy of 10.3 to arrive thank you.

If you do insist on having this OS, then download the update combo using the disk image...NOT the software update in system prefs.

RayX · Oct 13, 2003, 10:27 PM

10.2.8 V2 Combo works fine.

HouseSold · Oct 13, 2003, 10:46 PM

Dan,

It will still KP in 10.2.7; at least mine does. We have same config and it is not the added memory (KP's with and without)

Mine does and Apple says they want it back.
Go to www.macintouch.com and go to Sunday's news and read about a fellow and his friend who both bought 15" Aluminum Books that both KP out of the box in 10.2.7

Reproducible KP recipe:

1 Powerbook 17"1.33 with charged battery.

Sleep the Book; disconnect the power adaptor and open the lid. Either cursor freeze or KP. (option 1)

Go to Energy saver and select Automatic and close panel. KP (option 2)

Restart Book (usually have to hold down power button to fully shut off-will not cntrl-command-power restart without)

Run /sbin/fsck -y, then exit and repair permissions, but first go to energy panel and select highest performance.(runs repair permissions more quickly)

Repair permissions gets halfway and KP's (option 3)

This all after AppleCare had me run hardware test in extended loop for 6 hours with no errors found.

Heck, I didn't buy this to become a tech; I just wanted to use and enjoy it like everyone else.

Let us know how you solve yours. Mine's going to Texas tomorrow. Hope they have parts.

Darksider · Oct 13, 2003, 10:51 PM

People are still downloading this? Don't people learn?

Daniel Bayer · Oct 13, 2003, 11:11 PM

Mine is fine now, was before 10.2.8 too.

I will wait for 10.3.

Yes, I learned from the download, I was just stalling and trying to out smart it so I didn't have to re-install the original OS.

Apparently the the combo update works.

At this point however, I will wait for my 10.3 disk as I work on 2.7.

HouseSold · Oct 13, 2003, 11:19 PM

I just KP'd while responding to your post.

The combo updater worked for awhile for me, especially reinstalling after disk utility got corrupted. I had to reinstall because you can't successfully drag and drop disk utility. But short lived.

10.2.8 works fine on my flat panel iMac.

Daniel Bayer · Oct 13, 2003, 11:56 PM

anyone else with this??

If I have to send mine back in it's gonna SUPER suck! Take note of specs below...

Daniel Bayer · Oct 13, 2003, 11:57 PM

Has anyone had these KP's *without* ever updating to 10.2.8 in any shape or form??

I am talking 10.2.7 ONLY now.

icruise · Oct 14, 2003, 12:05 AM

Are you sure it's not a memory issue (bad memory)? The KP could be more or less unrelated to the OS version, but just happened to get worse after you upgraded.

Anyway, no problems here with the new version of 10.2.8

Daniel Bayer · Oct 14, 2003, 12:08 AM

Yeah, I do actually.

I read the link above and it sounds like what it is.

I'll call ramjet tomorrow and get another module.

....Finicky sucker!!

Daniel Bayer · Oct 14, 2003, 12:50 AM

BINGO!

I shut down, swapped the ram into different slots and when I did the drill, startup, repair permissions, I did ran a few apps, shut them down and put it to sleep.

I then unplugged it and went to wake it back up and poof! The screen just went black and it shut down.

So I took out the ramjet stick and put the Apple Samsung one back in the rear slot.

Did the drill (see above) and tried everything to crash it and no dice.

Bad ram.

I will try to bonk it over the next few days to see if it does it but I think that is what it was.

So....sorry for the 10.2.8 flame.

db

ae86_16v · Oct 14, 2003, 01:55 AM

Hahaha. . . man Dan, don't scare us like that.