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Need help with Bluetooth Connection on PB with T610 & TMobile
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Nov 26, 2003, 05:14 PM
 
Hi all - I know this has been discussed at length - but I can't find any step by step threads. I've just picked up a SonyEricsson T610 phone and am trying to get online with a GPRS connection. I have been able to connect to the phone with bluetooth - and I did set up a new dataconnection with the "internet2.voicestream.com" in the APN for that connection.

Now I just can't figure out how to make the connection between the PB and the GPRS connection work. Any tidbits from those of you who have gotten it to work would be appreciated. I've checked howardforums, btw, but can't find any mac specific info.

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Nov 27, 2003, 11:25 AM
 
Originally posted by danbrew:
Hi all - I know this has been discussed at length - but I can't find any step by step threads. I've just picked up a SonyEricsson T610 phone and am trying to get online with a GPRS connection. I have been able to connect to the phone with bluetooth - and I did set up a new dataconnection with the "internet2.voicestream.com" in the APN for that connection.

Now I just can't figure out how to make the connection between the PB and the GPRS connection work. Any tidbits from those of you who have gotten it to work would be appreciated. I've checked howardforums, btw, but can't find any mac specific info.

'tanks, and good turkey day to 'ya.
Nevermind - the guy at TMobile tier 2 support helped me walk through it. Long story short - you need *two* gprs connections on the phone - one for "t-zones" with an APN of "wap.voicestream.com" and one for your bluetooth connectivity with an APN of "internet2.voicestream.com".

You also need to set the IP of the phone when using bluetooth - the guy at tmobile told me which address to use. You also need to open the internet connection mgr in the mac and enter the phone number to call - which is "*99***x#" - where the "x" is the CID of the bluetooth connection.

Works like a charm.

Not sure how many people here have this configuration - if you're interested, post a note and I'll do up some detailed instructions.

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Nov 27, 2003, 11:44 AM
 
Does using the internet on your PowerBook with that setup use minutes, or is it covered under the unlimited data plan TMobile offers?

1.25ghz 15" PowerBook
     
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Nov 27, 2003, 12:14 PM
 
Originally posted by Chemmy:
Does using the internet on your PowerBook with that setup use minutes, or is it covered under the unlimited data plan TMobile offers?
It does not use up the minutes - it is a GPRS connection.
     
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Nov 28, 2003, 01:13 AM
 
Cool. I'm thinking about doing the same thing.

What calling plan do you have with TMobile, and if you don't mind, could you post a price breakdown of everything you have from them?

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Nov 28, 2003, 11:56 AM
 
My plan with them is 1000 minutes for $49 and unlimited internet for another $19. I think. I just changed my plan - I believe that if you have any plan over $39 or 49$ then you can get the unlimited internet for $19. Or maybe $29 - silly, I know. I didn't pay that much attention to it while ordering and I haven't received my first bill.

Setup was a bit of a pain, but once it is up, it works great. For what it is - 50-80k, perhaps.

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Dec 2, 2003, 05:14 AM
 
Check out this site for GPRS scripts for Mac OS X for Nokia and Sony Ericsson phones (and probably others):

http://www.taniwha.org.uk
(Highly recommended)

Basically all you do, is set the modem to one of the scripts, something like "Ericsson GPRS CID1", and put in any TCP/IP details, and use the access point name as the phone number. That's it. Connect like a normal dial-up connection using Internet Connect.

I believe there should be some guides floating around on how to set it up step by step, but it's pretty straight forward.

Something else you might need to do, is create an extra bluetooth port. If you go to 'Bluetooth Serial Utility' in /Applications/Utilities, you can make a serial port from one of the bluetooth ports provided by the phone (which you can use for GPRS). When you start using lots of bluetooth applications, such as Address Book, Salling Clicker, Internet Connect (GPRS), and iSync all at the same time, you might need to giggle around with the ports.
     
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Dec 2, 2003, 01:10 PM
 
Can some one write a quick step by step for the T610; what data you need and what setup you need for the mac and phone.

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Dec 2, 2003, 02:24 PM
 
I was looking at this phone just yesterday! Great info. Can someone remind what 50-80k looks like - that must be very slow indeed. For those of you that have it, is it tolerable? I know that 50-80k > 0, which is why I am interested. But can you tolerably surf at that speed?
     
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Dec 2, 2003, 11:53 PM
 
The 50-80k is just a guess on my part - the speed tests from dslreports.com don't work when you use the phone/gprs connection. go figure. My $0.02 is the connection is *ok* when you *have* to make a connection - but it isn't a regular connection by any stretch of the imagination. I suppose the biggest problem that I have with it is that the phone (or T-Mobile) will drop you after a relatively brief period of inactivity (60 seconds?) - for example, I find that I cannot read a long email and pen a short reply without the internet connection being dropped. It's not that big a deal because it is easy to reconnect and T-Mobile offers unlimited internet access -- but it would be *very* nice if I had an app in the background that was pinging some random server every 15 seconds to keep the connection open.

Anyway, having said all of that, here are the step by step instructions to get the T610, the Powerbook, T-Mobile, and bluetooth to all work together:

Sure, easy enough.

You need to do a few things - first, do you have any connectivity to t-zones at all? can you check the news or download email, or whatever? if so, you are set with WAP connectivity. If not, follow step 1 below.

Step 1

1. Press joystick.
2. Select Connectivity
3. Select Data Comm.
4. Select Data Accounts.
5. Select New Account.
6. Name it T-Mobile GPRS.
7. Select APN.
8. Enter "wap.voicestream.com"
9. Everything else in this connection is left blank - including user id, password, ip address, etc.. The important part is the APN.
10. Hit the "go back" button - the key right above the #1 - until you're back at the main screen.
11. Press the joystick.
12. Select t-zones.
13. You should now be able to browse t-zones and the like. Select IM & Email and enter your email information and you'll be good to go.

Step 2

If you've already got WAP connectivity, you can skip step 1 above - if not, do that first. Next you've got to set up a GPRS connection that points to another server for internet use. Steps are close to the above - with one or two key differences:

1. Press joystick.
2. Select Connectivity
3. Select Data Comm.
4. Select Data Accounts.
5. Select New Account.
6. Name it T-Mobile BT.
7. Select APN.
8. Enter "internet2.voicestream.com" (I believe there are "internet1, internet2, and internet3 servers" - I'm using internet2 and it works fine.
9. The IP address should be 216.155.165.050.
10. Everything else in this connection is left blank - including user id, password, etc.. The important part is the APN & IP address. An interesting note - unlike a computer, where each must have a unique IP, all of the phones hitting this server must have this IP address - I got my IP from the guy at T-Mobile, but have seen references to the same IP many times on www.howardforums.com, so we won't run into an issue having the same IP.
11. Hit the "go back" button - the key right above the #1 - until you're back at the main screen.

Now you just need to simply configure the Macintosh Internet Connection to sync with the T610. I assume you've already got basic connectivity between the phone and the Mac? if not, press the "more" button from the main screen and select "turn on bluetooth" - then use the "Bluetooth Setup Assistant" in the /applications/utilities folder on your mac. Associate the phone and the mac and you're almost there.

You need to determine the CID of your "T-Mobile BT" connection -- it's probably "3", but to check, from the main menu, press the joystick and navigate to Connectivity/DataComm./DataAccounts/T-Mobile BT/ and you should see something that says "CID=x", "x" being your CID - remember that number.

Now go to the Macintosh Internet Connect (/applications/Internet Connect) and select "USB Bluetooth Modem Adapter" as the configuration, the telephone number is something you have to add -- it is "*99***3#" - without the quotes, of course. That's star star nine nine star star star THREE pound -- the THREE, of course, is the CID. If your CID is 2 or 4 or whatever, substitute that number instead.

When you want to make a connection, ensure that all other connectivity to your mac is turned off (airport, ethernet, etc.) - so you know this works - and then open internet connect and simply hit the "connect button" - there is no name or password required in the dialog box (or on the phone).

If it all works correctly, you'll see some activity on the phone and the dialog box on the mac will say "contacting ppp server" - and then you'll be up. One thing I have noticed is that the connection will not stay active if you're not doing anything - reading a long email, browsing a webpage, etc. I don't know what the timeout period is, or if you can adjust it, but if you're looking for connectivity when all else fails, this is a neat option. I can easily read and write on the macnn forums - i think it feels like a 50-80k connection. GPRS under 3G has the potential to go to 2 megs - so wouldn't that be awesome!

Good luck with it - happy to chat again if we need to.

Regards,

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