[Hamburglar]

Hey all...a family member has her heart set on an iPod, and as everyone's favorite holiday o' commercialism approaches, I realized yeaterday that her old school Tangerine iBook does not have firewire (and let's deal with that before we touch the OS 9 in there...). So, here's the question - is there any way to use an iPod on such an iBook? If I remeber correctly, there aren't any open expansion bays on those suckers - and I'm a bit out-of-my-league here (switching back from Windows after college - now that I'm working and can actually afford a Mac again) as I'm reaquainting myself with all things Mac.


Are there any possible solutions here (for firewire on her iBook, for iPod w/o firewire, maybe earlier revision?!?)? Any and all help are appreciated.

-burglar

[SupahCoolX]

There's no way to add firewire to that iBook model. Current iPods are compatible with USB 2.0, which uses the same port and is backwards compatible with regular USB. So, in theory, it should work through the USB port (I've never tried this though). Of course, it would probably take 3 days to load a few GB of music that way, so it's really not worth it IMO.

[dracoleb]

I think the USB support is windows only, at least that's what Apple says.

[Hamburglar]

Originally posted by dracoleb:
I think the USB support is windows only, at least that's what Apple says.

Yeah, has anyone had any experience using an iPod with USB on a Mac?
Thanks for the help so far.

-burglar

[PCTek]

Originally posted by Hamburglar:
(and let's deal with that before we touch the OS 9 in there...).

No, please, let's talk about it, considering the new iPods need 10.1.5 or later.

[Hamburglar]

Originally posted by PCTek:
No, please, let's talk about it, considering the new iPods need 10.1.5 or later.

But previous gens, obviously not the case... Was it the first gen that used 9.2?

[rytc]

Originally posted by Hamburglar:
But previous gens, obviously not the case... Was it the first gen that used 9.2?

Yes they could be used on OS 9 just fine, I used the two togther for a while. However, they only have firewire, the tangerine doesn't.

So basically, the old iPods could use OS9 but don't have USB. The new iPods have USB but require OS X. The iBook in question doesn't have firewire and isn't running OS X.
The only solution if she really wants an iPod is to buy a cheap second hand iBook with firewire.

[NYCFarmboy]

I have a orange ibook with a 3 gig hard drive... it runs os 10.2.8 just fine...maybe a bit slow..but works great as laptop for internet/

However, the hard drive is so small I can't really install anything extra or really use any of the iLife applications (although they are on there).



I would think the USB limitation would preclude use with a ipod though even if it did connect as it would take days to transfer the files.

[radarbob]

So basically, the old iPods could use OS9 but don't have USB. The new iPods have USB but require OS X

Marketeers strike again!nnn

[radarbob]

NYCFarmboy;
If you are at all interested in getting OS X to work acceptably on you tangerine I strongly and wholeheartedly recommend that you put in a new lung / heart transplant as it were - a new hard drive and a 512MB memory module (note my signature). I got mine from www.4allmemory.com. That was the only place I found that could explicitly identify a/the 512MB module that would work on our iBooks. Decent prices too.

New hard drive
With a 40MB drive I have separate installs of OS 9 and OS X, most of my CD collection and the Apple software development tools - oh, and the entire contents of my original drive - with more than 20GB space remaining.

As for running apps
Often I typically have the following open w/ no degradation in performance: email, safari (3 - 10 tabs!), clock, launchbar utility, Appleworks or BBEdit or MS Word, Watson, Adobe reader, textEdit, Quicken in classic mode. Impressive, eh?

Read more about it at your local library
Here's my "heart / lung" transplant adventures. Follow the white rabbit...
http://www.macdebate.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y...960147&p=1

[NYCFarmboy]

Originally posted by radarbob:
NYCFarmboy;
If you are at all interested in getting OS X to work acceptably on you tangerine I strongly and wholeheartedly recommend that you put in a new lung / heart transplant as it were - a new hard drive and a 512MB memory module (note my signature). I got mine from www.4allmemory.com. That was the only place I found that could explicitly identify a/the 512MB module that would work on our iBooks. Decent prices too.

New hard drive
With a 40MB drive I have separate installs of OS 9 and OS X, most of my CD collection and the Apple software development tools - oh, and the entire contents of my original drive - with more than 20GB space remaining.

As for running apps
Often I typically have the following open w/ no degradation in performance: email, safari (3 - 10 tabs!), clock, launchbar utility, Appleworks or BBEdit or MS Word, Watson, Adobe reader, textEdit, Quicken in classic mode. Impressive, eh?

Read more about it at your local library
Here's my "heart / lung" transplant adventures. Follow the white rabbit...
http://www.macdebate.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y...960147&p=1

checking this out!

I already have a extra 10 gig hard drive that came with my 500 mhz g3 ibook (I put a 40 in the white ibook)....so I plan on at the minimum installing the 10 in the orange ibook...that would at the minimum make itunes functional (I only have 700 megs of free hard drive space on the 3 gig drive after installing Jaguar for mp3's/or anything else so it is limiting...the 10 gig would at least give me breathing room.

thank for the info!

[radarbob]

If you want to get a couple more years of service out of your MkI iBook as I do then my spidey-sense is telling me that 10 MB is not enough. You're gonna use 4+MB just installing OS X and the contents of your old drive.

BUT if finances are forcing you to choose between a bigger HD or more memory, definitely get the memory.