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WizOSX · Dec 20, 2003, 01:10 AM

I installed 10.3.2 (and the battery update) and the startup time just increased dramatically. 2 minutes, 45 seconds until the beachball stops spinning. Quite nasty. (iBook 700mhz) I've repaired permissions. No improvement.

Would anyone else with a G3 iBook (700, 800, 900mhz) and 10.3.2 tell us their times from pushing the power button to the beachball stopping after the dock and menu bar appear.

dracoleb · Dec 20, 2003, 04:58 AM

Hmm... i haven't noticed much of a change, though I am on a 12" G4. It wouldn't bother me that much as I almost never shut it down. The only times I restart is with updates, though we have gotten a lot of those lately.

andretan · Dec 20, 2003, 09:16 AM

Yeah. 10.3.2 startup times have increased significantly.

10.3.1 could get me to the desktop with Dock and Finder loaded in a snap. Now? It's much slower. Geez.

imactheknife · 11:33 AM

I did a fresh install of panther..and it was again way faster than 10.3.2. SO I thought I would do all the updates again including 10.3.2 and again it's much slower than 10.3.1...although not as bad as the first time I upgraded to 10.3.2..

Still sucks though and I guess I will revert back to 10.3.1 for now!...

I also noticed that it sits at the initializing the network for like 3-4 seconds as well? (blue screen with OSX box) I have an airport card in the ibook too...but the spinning beach ball at the desktop and forever to load is annoying!!

WizOSX · Dec 20, 2003, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by imactheknife

I also noticed that it sits at the initializing the network for like 3-4 seconds as well? (blue screen with OSX box) I have an airport card in the ibook too...but the spinning beach ball at the desktop and forever to load is annoying!!.

On my machine it sits at "printing services" for over 15 seconds, which it never did before.

imactheknife · Dec 20, 2003, 06:02 PM

yeah, it is really weird..the grey OSX splash screen stays up for WAY longer than before and the ibook is not even as peppy as it was before so I am in the process of installing panther Yet again and will only update to 10.3.1!

Is yours over all a tad slower in responsiveness?? mine was I couldnt handle the slow down!

cheers, Mark

bleee · Dec 20, 2003, 06:07 PM

Man you guys must restart your iBook often I just leave it on or put it to sleep I see a restart maybe once every 2 weeks if that. I haven't notice much in start up time difference since 10.3.2 but I'm not the type to sit around twiddeling my thumbs waiting for the login screen either.

WizOSX · Dec 20, 2003, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by bleee

Man you guys must restart your iBook often I just leave it on or put it to sleep.

It seems to me it is OK to leave a desktop on all the time, but not a notebook. First, your battery�s life will be reduced if you leave it plugged in all the time and the iBook gets really messed up if you run it with the battery out. Second, with the heat generated inside, I�d be leery of leaving any notebook on for much more than the time that I�m actually using it. Maybe I�m just being paranoid.

imactheknife · Dec 20, 2003, 07:17 PM

well for one thing this is not my main computer I have a G4 tower for that...but when I am out traveling etc I do shut it down now and then...but it's not just the start up time that is slow...it seems to take longer for things to open up including the finder...and now that I just reinstalled OSX 10.3.1 is is WAY faster than it was with 10.3.2...nuff said..I will wait until more another update comes out! and I agree laptops are not really meant to be used like a desktop..but thats your own call..cheers, Mark

dracoleb · Dec 20, 2003, 08:27 PM

It seems to me it is OK to leave a desktop on all the time, but not a notebook. First, your battery�s life will be reduced if you leave it plugged in all the time and the iBook gets really messed up if you run it with the battery out. Second, with the heat generated inside, I�d be leery of leaving any notebook on for much more than the time that I�m actually using it. Maybe I�m just being paranoid.

When you put your notebook to sleep it only powers that RAM enough to save the state, The main power drawing and heat generating components (Processor, HDD) are turned off. Heat is not an issue and it should be able to be in sleep mode for a few weeks on battery

adamjh · Dec 20, 2003, 08:37 PM

I went from a 40 second boot time in 10.3.1 to about 90 seconds with the new update. Apps seem to take a little longer to open too. Annoying!

WizOSX · Dec 20, 2003, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by adamjh

I went from a 40 second boot time in 10.3.1 to about 90 seconds with the new update. Apps seem to take a little longer to open too. Annoying!

What kind of machine/RAM do you have? It is amazing that I went from 75 seconds to 160. Just about 2.25 times in each case. Weird.

darcybaston · Dec 20, 2003, 11:18 PM

Noticed the startup lag two. Mine is the pause before the login screen appears. That's where my extra time is being consumed.

But, I only restart the iBook when absolutely necessary. It sleeps well for days and holds the charge wonderfully.

james_squared · Dec 21, 2003, 12:27 PM

Hello,

I'm not too sure what the boot up speed was under 10.3.1, but it is noticeably slower under 10.3.2. Including the time it takes me to type in my login password, my boot up time is about 105 seconds.

James

Rev-O · Dec 21, 2003, 02:15 PM

Tried repairing permissions, 'cuz 10.3.2 slowed start up times significantly (like y'all hadn't figgered that one out yet...). Before repairing permissions, took my iBook 132 seconds to be g2g. After repaiering permissions it only takes... um... 132 seconds.

hatin'.

WizOSX · Dec 21, 2003, 07:21 PM

I finally gave up on 10.3.2 this afternoon. Reformatted my hard drive and reinstalled 10.3 and upgraded to 10.3.1. The machine booted in 45 seconds!!!!! So we're talking about 4 times as long under 10.3.2!! Now, maybe some software I had contributed to the problem but I'm not going to reinstall 10.3.2 in the near future just to find out.

adamjh · Dec 21, 2003, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by WizOSX:
What kind of machine/RAM do you have? It is amazing that I went from 75 seconds to 160. Just about 2.25 times in each case. Weird.

iBook G4/933/640 RAM,used to be fast boot, now slow. Guess I'll just use sleep and never reboot!

ginoledesma · Dec 21, 2003, 09:36 PM

Yes, startup times seem to have increased, although it has never bothered me much because I seldom restart my Mac (only when applying updates that need a reinstall, or when I've messed up the Finder so bad).

I'm sticking to 10.3.2 because, overall, the Finder and system performance is "snappier," at least with the apps I deal with regularly: Safari, iPhoto, iCal, Mail, iTunes, LaTex, and the like.

MacmanX · Dec 21, 2003, 09:48 PM

I have a G3 900MHz, and have not noticed any difference in start up times. Sometimes, the finder seems a little slow, but not annoyingly so. It only seems to happen in folders with lots of custom icons (i.e. 'Applications'). And, of course, once the folder is loaded into the memory, it opens right away. Perhaps once all the chronos scripts have run their course, things will pep back up.

Cheers!