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Feb 25, 2004, 01:05 AM
 
I have a 1ghz 12" PB wiith 768 total RAM. After rebooting earler today and then opening FCP4 for an hour my page ins and outs are as follows: 78952 in/ 72405 out. FCP is using a Hitachi 7k250 160GB scratch disk via FW. The PB internal PB drive is the stock 4200rpm Toshiba 40gb, which has 15gb free. Before rebooting I had over 350,000 page outs. I ran Diskwarrior today, but am still accumating this many page outs. FCP does bog the system down and I am really curious as to how things would fare with 1.25gb RAM (though I don't feel like shelling out $300+ for another stick at this time.) I have read that many have 0 page outs on their systems over a 2 week period or longer. How much is using virtual memory slowing my system down? Thanks.
     
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Feb 25, 2004, 04:34 AM
 
I was getting a bunch of page outs and decided to get rid of USB Overdrive and Shapeshifter/APE as niether was really necessary for me. and all is well now. Basically i would look at what background/startup apps you have running that may be causing it.
     
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Feb 25, 2004, 07:14 AM
 
Page Ins and Outs happen when you run out of RAM - so yes, more RAM will help. But unless you notice the disk chugging away doing operations, it's not slowing your machine down that much.
     
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Feb 25, 2004, 10:33 AM
 
Page ins are okay to have, since applications have to be "paged in" when pieces are loaded into ram--that's normal.

Page out's aren't quite as good. This usually indicates that a request for memory was made without any free memory being available--so the memory manager decided to "page out" some inactive pages of memory to make some room for the new memory request.

Usually, a few page outs aren't anything to worry about and just indicates you're getting full use of that memory you bought--but lots (and I think you have lots in this case) means you should get some extra ram and should see a much smoother operation.
     
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Feb 25, 2004, 12:24 PM
 
I understand what page outs are. Thanks for the explanation, though. I am at 135,000 now and have not been using FCP since the last count. I really thought 768mb RAM would be able to handle most tasks without dumping on the HD.
     
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Feb 25, 2004, 04:36 PM
 
maybe you have a memory leak in a programme. Have you tried seeing in terminal which programmes are using up all of your memory?
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Feb 25, 2004, 05:52 PM
 
Originally posted by Mike Pither:
maybe you have a memory leak in a programme. Have you tried seeing in terminal which programmes are using up all of your memory?
it's 'top -u' in the terminal (the u sorts them by usage)

if you don't feel like that, under panther, you can open the activity monitor in /Applications/Utilities
     
   
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