Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

You are here: MacNN Forums > Hardware - Troubleshooting and Discussion > Mac Notebooks > Hoping for 12" iBook G4 (Rev. B)

Hoping for 12" iBook G4 (Rev. B)
Thread Tools
Mac Elite
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rockville, MD
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 14, 2004, 09:09 PM
 
By Macworld SF 2004, I'd like to see three new iBooks as follows:

12.1" TFT
1.25 GHz G4 processor
Combo Drive
256MB RAM
Built-in Bluetooth
1 x FireWire 800
2 x USB 2.0
Mac OS 10.3.5 installed
mini-DVI port

14.1" TFT
1.6 GHz G4 processor
Combo Drive
256MB RAM
Built-in Bluetooth
1 x FireWire 800
2 x USB 2.0
Mac OS 10.3.5 installed
mini-DVI port

14.1" TFT
1.8 GHz G4 processor
SuperDrive
256MB RAM
Built-in Bluetooth
1 x FireWire 800
2 x USB 2.0
Mac OS 10.3.5 installed
mini-DVI port
     
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: The O.C.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 14, 2004, 09:33 PM
 
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Switzerland
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 15, 2004, 01:14 AM
 
Good luck on a 1.8 G4. I wouldn't hold your breath on it.

As for the rest, it looks to be somewhat conservative!
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Norway (I eat whales)
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 15, 2004, 06:11 AM
 
My guess is something around a 200 (+/- 50) Mhz cpu increase on all the iBooks.

Sniffer gone old-school sig
     
Forum Regular
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: uk
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 15, 2004, 07:58 AM
 
are you taking the piss?

these look alot more like the powerbook specs.

if they cant make a g5 powerbook, how are they going to make them better than these specs just quoted?

they do have to justify an increased price, i dont think just a superdrive and glowing keyboard will cut the mustard.

anyone else agree with me on this?

personally, it would be cool to see the return of colours to the ibook line, the current line of macs are looking increasingly plain.
     
Forum Regular
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 15, 2004, 08:10 AM
 
Originally posted by teknopimp:
http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=425
C'mon Apple!

No Firewire 800?
No DVI?
No Better display?

I hope the 12" iBook will get a processor > 1GHz and an ATI card (NVidia one of no use with Linux)...
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Norway (I eat whales)
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 15, 2004, 09:37 AM
 
Since we don't really have the 970fx (or what its name again?) yet, then a PB G5 is still far away. BTW is the G4 really that bad CPU for a portable?

Sniffer gone old-school sig
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 15, 2004, 09:46 AM
 
Originally posted by sniffer:
Since we don't really have the 970fx (or what its name again?) yet, then a PB G5 is still far away. BTW is the G4 really that bad CPU for a portable?
Hell, a 1 GHz PowerPC G3 with 512k L2 cache would be fine in Mac OS X for web browsing, e-mail, and light gaming. A 1 GHz G4 is even better.

No way in hell will there be a 1.8 GHz G5 in an iBook anytime soon. I doubt the next PowerBook revision will include a G5.
     
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Hollywood, CA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 15, 2004, 12:51 PM
 
It would be nice too if the 256MB of RAM was built-in and not 128MB built-in with 128MB in the expansion slot.

The G4 currently tops out at 1.5GHz.
     
Forum Regular
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 15, 2004, 02:56 PM
 
Originally posted by sniffer:
BTW is the G4 really that bad CPU for a portable?
I would prefer the IBM G3+Altivec.

The G4 architecture is mainly born to give G3 a bit of SMP (multiple processor) support. But iBook don't need SMP.
After the G4 was born, G3 makers focused on faster integer and floating point units, while G4 ones researched parallel optimisations, altivec coprocessor.
So we got G3 without Altivec, with slow BUS and slow PC133 RAM, and so on.

Current G3 (IBM) are faster than G4 (Motorola) at the same clock speed and need less power.

As iBook don't need SMP, all Apple have to do is drop Motorola and adopt IBM G3+Altivec+DDR.
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Norway (I eat whales)
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 15, 2004, 04:20 PM
 
Yes that's true, IIRC the latest generations of the G3 I've heard supported higher bus speeds (200MHz?) or something?

Sniffer gone old-school sig
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Across the river from Trump Chicago
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 16, 2004, 07:19 PM
 
All I ask is they increase the FSB and I will buy one.

Barack Obama: Four more years of the Carter Presidency
     
Mac Elite
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rockville, MD
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 16, 2004, 07:55 PM
 
Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
All I ask is they increase the FSB and I will buy one.
FSB = frontside bus?
     
Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 16, 2004, 11:09 PM
 
Can't wait to see what's under the new lineup.
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ~/
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 17, 2004, 08:45 PM
 
If the 12" iBook hits 1GHz (though I suspect it'll be 933MHz) and if the new graphics chip still works with the display spanning firmware hack, I'll be buying one.

The 12" iBook is small enough and probably fast enough for me, but I need QE-enaqbled dual-display ability (for Keynote and PowerPoint). And I don't need the very slightly smaller but more expensive 12" PB for this feature alone.

Though, with the new models, I bet the 800MHz'ers will be nice and cheap. And I know they work with the display firmware hack.
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Norway (I eat whales)
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 18, 2004, 04:48 AM
 
Agree with you Cadaver, but I also think there is a good chance that Steve will just bump all the modells above xxx MHz. There is some prestige in breaking new barriers and so, and he can use that in his next speak, or something. "Leaving the 1GHz barrier.."
(Last edited by sniffer; Apr 18, 2004 at 04:53 AM. )

Sniffer gone old-school sig
     
   
Thread Tools
Forum Links
Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Top
Privacy Policy
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:26 PM.
All contents of these forums © 1995-2011 MacNN. All rights reserved.
Branding + Design: www.gesamtbild.com
vBulletin v.3.8.7 © 2000-2011, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2