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finknottle · Apr 18, 2004, 03:47 PM

How does one do this? I am trying to reboot from a CD holding the C button down.....should journaling make this impossible? I have been having this difficulty since I got this iBook. Diskwarrior disks, Yellow Dog Linux installation disks, everything but Apples Panther, Jaguar CDs and of course the ones that came with the iBook.
Anybody have a clue what I can do?

SupahCoolX · Apr 18, 2004, 03:59 PM

Open Disk Utility (in your Applications/Utilities folder). The Disable Journaling option is in the File menu.

ccsccs7 · Apr 18, 2004, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by finknottle:
How does one do this? I am trying to reboot from a CD holding the C button down.....should journaling make this impossible?�

I don't think Journaling would stop you from being able to boot up from a CD. The option for Journaling is on a per disk basis and cannot be enabled on read-only media.

finknottle · Apr 18, 2004, 05:02 PM

What could it be then?

AU_student_iceBook · Apr 18, 2004, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by finknottle:
What could it be then?

If it is a burned cd, it might be too new for your old iBook to be able to read.

Try booting up from some kind of retail cd (like diskwarrior or Jaguar or Panther or os9).

finknottle · Apr 18, 2004, 06:22 PM

I tried the diskwarrior cd. It won't work. My ibook is, for another few days anyhow, one of the current crop of low end 800Mhz G4 iBooks (partitioned HD for Linux to be installed at some stage...) with 642 MB Ram and OSX.3.3
I have had this problem since I got it but since the Apple CDs will boot and Diskwarrior etc won't it is puzzling. Today I did a clean install of Panther with a view to adding Yellow Dog the iBook.
This is really puzzling!
Any other ideas?

David Lee · Apr 18, 2004, 08:02 PM

Sorry, but I do not understand what you find puzzling. The G4 iBooks, my 933 14" included, will not (correctly) boot from any CD or HD that has an early version of OS X on it. This is a ROM related issue, just as these machines will not boot OS 9, they require a late-date version of OS X. The Disk Warrior CD I have is the latest (to date) version, DW 3.0.1 - but it is using OS X 10.2.3, and while it will boot my machine (somewhat), the video is all messed up, so it is virtually useless. Aquiring a new OS X 10.3 or later based CD from Alsoft is the only remedy to this I assume. Thus the iBook is "too new for your old" system CDs to boot.
What is puzzling is how you got 642MB in your machine (as per your post) because the usual amount is 640MB. Journaling should be turned off before you do any serious disk repair work, with Disk Warrior etc., but it can be turn on again later.
I also assume that only the very latest versions of Unix will work on this late-date machine, you will have to confirm this issue with the system vender.

finknottle · Apr 18, 2004, 09:33 PM

Thanks for the explanation...why the sarcasm? There are some real jerks in these forums...
Still doesn't explain who the Linux disks which I purchased (not downloaded don't work) .....they should boot in panther I have been told.

ccsccs7 · Apr 19, 2004, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by finknottle:
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Still doesn't explain who the Linux disks which I purchased (not downloaded don't work) .....they should boot in panther I have been told.

How old are they? (When were they made?) As per the previous explanation, if they don't have specific support for your system, they might not work. Have you tried their support? From what I read there, it would appear that journaling make make the install or running of Linux have problems, but not booting from the CD.

Perhaps you could describe in more detail how it doesn't work. (blinking question mark? stall? boots from the hard drive?)