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CDs that will not start AlBook 1.5GHz
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Today I realized that I cannot boot my new Aluminum PowerBook 1.5GHz with the following CDs:
1. Panther retail CD (although the DVD that came with the AlBook can be used)
2. DiskWarrior 3.0.2
3. TechTool Pro 4.0.1
Any idea what changed in the hardware that is causing me this grief? The above CDs will still boot my TiBook.
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same thing here...
chose to (had to?) order updated cds for techtool & diskwarrior.
apple changed something in the bootrom on the new books, rendering the mentioned disks unbootable (altho i'm sure that wasn't the intention...  )
about $20-$30 each...yikes!
micromat.com
alsoft.com
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"At first, there was Nothing. Then Nothing inverted itself and became Something.
And that is what you all are: inverted Nothings...with potential" (Sun Ra)
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Originally posted by madgreek:
Today I realized that I cannot boot my new Aluminum PowerBook 1.5GHz with the following CDs:
1. Panther retail CD (although the DVD that came with the AlBook can be used)
2. DiskWarrior 3.0.2
3. TechTool Pro 4.0.1
Any idea what changed in the hardware that is causing me this grief? The above CDs will still boot my TiBook.
The hardware changed. This is very common. In fact, it would be odd if you *COULD* boot with these disks. The machine is newer than the operating system on the mentioned discs. Therefore, the operating system on those discs doesn't have the appropriate drivers to boot the machine.
In some instances, a version of OS X can boot some newer machines, but there is virtually always some driver that is missing. Before OS X, it was impossible for Mac OS to boot a newer machine without some kind of system enabler (i.e. newer drivers).
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ACSA 10.4/10.3, ACTC 10.3, ACHDS 10.3
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I guess I can't fault advances in technology. Off to spend more money on updates....
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Originally posted by madgreek:
I guess I can't fault advances in technology. Off to spend more money on updates....
I wonder why you'ld want to use the original 10.3 retail CDs if you've got a more current version on DVD?
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Don't think you will get over the problem by getting Techtool 4.0.2. It won't boot either. Look for 4.0.3 if it is on the shelf. I just optimized my 120 Gig external HD with it however and it seems to work so far.
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It was just handier at the time to use the 10.3 retail CD so that's why I went that way first. Now I've made a duplicate of the DVDs that came with the PowerBook so now they will be handier in the future ;-)
I also ordered the Diskwarrior 3.0.2 and TechTool Pro X 4.0.3 updates.
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Originally posted by madgreek:
It was just handier at the time to use the 10.3 retail CD so that's why I went that way first. Now I've made a duplicate of the DVDs that came with the PowerBook so now they will be handier in the future ;-)
I also ordered the Diskwarrior 3.0.2 and TechTool Pro X 4.0.3 updates.
dw works, will assume tt will be fine as well.
good to go! until 10.3.6, or tiger, or...
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And that is what you all are: inverted Nothings...with potential" (Sun Ra)
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I upgraded TTP 4.0.2 to 4.0.3 (free download), used Diskwarrior and ran some maintenance from TTP 4.0.3 and then I was surprised I could finally make an e drive on my exterior 20 Gig HD that actually works. Now my 17" 1.5 GHz will boot to the e drive! I will try optimizing the internal HD this evening when I get home. I think however by initially leaving a BootCD I make from version tracker that had TTP 4.0.2 in the drive slot it "Primed the pump" to get it working. I did not boot from the CD, just left it in the drive and while in TTP I chose to boot from the e drive. Next I tried it without the boot CD and it worked! I can now use the e drive on the exterior HD to optimize my Powerbook HD. (hopefully)
Note that I was unable to make an e drive on the internal drive. I also could not create a bootable TTP 4.0.3 CD, but I imagine if you can buy the CD from Micromat it should work.
By the way, the latest edition of Diskwarrior (3.0.2) works fine on my 17" 1.5 Ghz. I have noticed in the past I did recieve a copy from Alsoft that did not work. If you call them you can send the defective copy and get a new one free.
Sad however we must pay all this third party money while Windows users click a button to defrag their hard drives with out all the drama of having to boot from a CD or exterior HD. They can do this with no worries of having to make sure first that they can safely do it.
(Last edited by urrl78; Sep 8, 2004 at 04:00 PM.
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Maybe someone could confirm or correct this, but I think it might be due to the system ROM. Around the time of the first Bondi iMac, Apple moved to 'ROM in RAM', which meant that far less rom space was needed, thus reducing costs and allowing more for updates. The downside of this is that the rom is stored on the boot drive, so must be present for the machine to boot.
Am I right or horrendously wrong?
David
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I optimized the internal HD using the e drive on an exterior HD. Things seem snappier like when I first bought the 17". Boot time, from the time I press the power button till the time the Airport and bluetooth icons come up in the top menu bar on the desktop, is about a minute and 4 seconds. Wish I had timed it before defragging. The laptop was set to automatically log in.
(Last edited by urrl78; Sep 9, 2004 at 03:51 AM.
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