Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

You are here: MacNN Forums > Hardware - Troubleshooting and Discussion > Mac Notebooks > Help ! My Ti800 HD just won't die once and for all

Help ! My Ti800 HD just won't die once and for all
Thread Tools
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: France
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 6, 2004, 07:50 AM
 
Hi everyone !

My Powerbook (800/40GB/512MB) just had a very weird week, and I'm looking for some advice. About a week ago, I noticed the hard drive made some weird noises : when I was browsing through folders, I could hear a sound of something "bouncing" inside the hard drive. It didn't happen all the time though. I even heard the drive making 0.5 second-long pitched sounds like "beeps". Of course I decided to make a complete backup of my data on a friend's iPod.

Later, I noticed that one of my partitions wouldn't mount in OS X (I got errors like disk0s11 : UNDEFINED in the system log), and the Disk Utility couldn't repair the volume : it just failed saying there was an error (something like -9972). Weirdly enough, the volume was recognized when I booted on OS 9.

I tried booting with Diskwarrior, but it wouldn't work : after a few minutes of the Apple startup screen, all I got was a blue screen. I think it may have something to do with the fact that it's not an original CD, but a CD-R copy. So I tried to repair the volume by just launching the app in OS X, but the process was taking ages, and the log was full of "couldn't read block range xxxxxx to yyyyyy".

Then I tried Tech Tool Pro 3. For some reason, it woulnd't boot in OS 9.2 from the CD : I got a bomb error saying "bus error". Then I tried fixing the disk by launching the TechTool app, which found a Volume header error on the faulty partition, and fixed it (erasing a lot of files from the partition in the process).

So since this morning, I have all my partitions back, and I can't hear any clicking sounds from my HD anymore. This is annoying, as I was about to buy a new HD as I thought mine was dying. Now I can't tell if it was just a partition problem or a real hardware issue.

Is there anyway I could know wether or not I have a faulty HD ? Do you think it's normal that fixing a drive with Tech Tool would stop it from clicking ?

Thanks in advance for your answers
     
Axel  (op)
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: France
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 6, 2004, 08:09 AM
 
I should have said that, all the time when my partition couldn't mount, the whole system would occasionally hang, with the HD spinning all the time. I had to force reboot quite a few times during the week.
Sometimes, the computer wouldn't even find the hard disk at startup (even the Disk Utility from 0S 10.3 Install CD couldn't see anything), but zapping the PRAM and resetting the NVRAM solved the problem.
     
Mac Elite
Join Date: Apr 2001
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 6, 2004, 08:10 AM
 
I think if you don't trust the drive anymore and you have the money it's worth just replacing the drive now. You can always turn the old drive into a backup drive or something...

Voch
     
Axel  (op)
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: France
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 6, 2004, 08:41 AM
 
I think that's the best thing to do. I'm considering buying a Toshiba 60GB 5400 rpm with 16MB of cache. I think I'll buy a cheap Firewire enclosure (Titanium Jr) for the original drive.
     
Senior User
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Dallas, Texas
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 6, 2004, 09:40 AM
 
yep, do it before the drive fails. After the new one is in place, you can format the old and hit it with all of the utilities you can and see if you can make it better.

k
Read my MacWebb column and other great Mac articles at Lowendmac.com

Owner of a MacBook Pro and various other Macs.
     
Axel  (op)
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: France
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 6, 2004, 01:44 PM
 
What keeps me from going straight to the store and buying a new HD is the possibility that the problem might come from somewhere else in my computer.
When I got back in my room 15 minutes ago, the system had frozen and I had to force restart. On reboot, the computer was apparently unable to see the HD, as it just showed a greey screen. I tried resetting the NVRAM and rebooting a few times, when it suddenly came back to life.
I'd really like to be sure that it's my HD that is responsible for all this.
     
Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: England
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 9, 2004, 06:10 AM
 
Originally posted by Axel:

I'd really like to be sure that it's my HD that is responsible for all this.
I had a very similar thing happen to me with an old 2001 dual usb iBook... I really would recommend getting that new drive asap... best of luck!

     
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton, UK
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 11, 2004, 07:26 PM
 
Originally posted by Axel:

I'd really like to be sure that it's my HD that is responsible for all this.
The sound you're describing sounds the same as my old Ti 550 made. The drive was dying. They do that, I'm afraid, and often earlier in lappys than desktops.

Try opening disk utility and selecting the the drive, not any volumes that may be on it. Now check the SMART status at the bottom of the window. If it says "failing" then a new drive is in order and your idea to go for a large cache and 5400 RPM is a good one.

I put my old drive in a firewire case and use it as a scratch disk, but only for non-critical stuff. I certainly wouldn't trust it further than that.
G5LC, 6 GB 1.07 TB 6800 GT & 30" (Workhorse)
1.4 GHz Cube 512 MB 60 GB (headless folding)
15" 1.67 GHz Ali G4 PB, 1.5 GB 100 GB (VJ rig 1 & Uni)
15" 1 GHz Ali G4 PB, 1.5 GB 60 GB (VJ rig 2)
G4 800 MHz Ti PB, 512 MB 60 GB (Lounge)
     
Axel  (op)
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: France
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 12, 2004, 04:30 AM
 
Last time I checked, the SMART status was OK. Currently, I can't even boot the computer (grey screen at startup). Last time that happened, a few PRAM and NVRAM resets made it work again. Anyway, I should receive the new drive shortly.
     
   
Thread Tools
Forum Links
Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Top
Privacy Policy
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:42 PM.
All contents of these forums © 1995-2011 MacNN. All rights reserved.
Branding + Design: www.gesamtbild.com
vBulletin v.3.8.7 © 2000-2011, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2