[atomic101]

I'm very close to buying a Titanium powerbook (to run my beloved OS9)

the current runners are a

refurb
15" Ti PowerBook 800mhz G4, 40gHD, (DVI), Combo Drive

and a new
15" Ti Powerbook 1ghz G4, 512mb, 60gHD, Superdrive x 1 speed


any thoughts on either of these two models anyone? Obviously the 1ghz was a revamp and speed bump on the DVi - has anyone used these two models? Is the difference signifigant?

The price difference is enough to buy me a 19/20" CRT monitor and at a squeeze a newer ipod than my first gen 5gb model


thanks for your thoughts and help

A101

[mrmister]

How did you find a new 1 Gig TiBook? They're almost two years old.

[cmoney]

i've got a ti g4-800 right now and am considering upgrading from it. i haven't used a 1ghz titanium but i have used a 1ghz aluminum. to tell you the truth i didn't see much difference at all. sure it was a little quicker, but not enough to justify upgrading at the time. and the 15" ti 1ghz has a radeon 9000 which isn't supported by core image (coming in os x tiger) so imho it's not worth the extra cost, especially if you can get all that extra stuff to go along with the 800mhz model.

plus i like the titanium enclosure so much more than the aluminum which is why i'm hesitant about upgrading.

[LORL]

My question is...with OS X so far along (and is arguably the best OS you can buy), why do you want to run OS 9?

Honestly, I'm not being sarcastic, I really want to know what you like so much about it (since I never got the chance to use it for more than a few fleeting moments).

[BrunoBruin]

I had a Ti667 DVI and traded up to a 1.25GHz Aluminum, and I too preferred the Titanium's casing, problematic as it was....

I recommend going for the 1GHz. It's one generation newer, and everything is a bit bigger or faster, including twice the VRAM (64MB vs. 32). Also, my TiBook, and others from the 667/800 series, still had the issue of paint flaking (mine was repaired under AppleCare). That should not be an issue on the 1GHz. Unless you know for a fact that the 800 is in the clear on this point, I'd go with the 1GHz.

[webb3201]

Two schools of thought on this one. I assume that both of them are under some sort of warranty and that you don't need a superdrive.

I would go for the 800 and buy yourself some nifty accessories with the difference. Both machines will handle all of your OS9 needs. I am not sure that you will see a huge difference in performance.

An 800 Mhz machine, with possibly a larger hard drive a gig of ram is a wonderful machine.

I think you will have less fan running on the 800 as well (others can confirm that or not).

ether way you will be happy.....but try OSX.

[freakboy2]

Originally posted by atomic101:
(to run my beloved OS9)

thanks for your thoughts and help

A101

my only thoughts are that love can be so hard to explain sometimes.

i can imagine needing os9 or being trapped by os9.. maybe having knocked-up OS9 and now being stuck at a shotgun wedding.

but seriously man, os9 is such a pos compared to OSx.. just let it go.

its fading into the daylight like the morning star at sunrise...

[iREZ]

Some people fear change, some like running old software whatever the cause they should use OS X and classic regardless.

[atomic101]

Thanks for the feedback. I have used OSX and despise the window/grid/frame and unless you have buckets of ram is like being back in 1994.

The only thing i admire about it so far is its stability, it doesn't crash - but apps do so...

I want OS9 as I've lots of legacy apps bought and paid for that do the job well and I"m not inclined to rush out and buy new versions

I haven't had a laptop before and a Ti-book would cover a few bases - keep my familiar OS9 apps, give me the freedom of a laptop, and give me a chance to start using OSX...

I can see the wisdom in both machines - no matter how well spec'ed in 2/3 years i'll be getting another... there is no long-lasting future proofing with computers - things are changing so fast that sooner or later they're gonna get you ;-)

still mulling it over... will let you know how i get on

thanks again for your thoughts

[Randman]

What apps are you using that don't run well on Classic? And how can you get a "new" TiBook that's about 2 years old? I can understand how a Ti can still be attractive, but it is a little funny hearing talk of the performances when even the iBooks have better performance.
What prices are you talking about for the contenders?

[freakboy2]

i wonder when you last used osx..

i think it was 10.3 which literally convinced my dad not to buy a g5 because it made his g4 533 DA machine so much faster.

I've had the same experience. if you have a video card that's gf3 or faster, the UI boots along now.

If you get a 2 year old tibook, you'll still think it's slow.

anyway, as someone said u can still run os9 apps in classic or many of them. osx is the future .. i can see waiting a while to make the jump, but in terms of stability of the os and the apps that run on it, it's laughable to compare it to os9.

i don't think any apps except IE have crashed on my cube for about year. The machine itself only gets rebooted for updates. Otherwise, it's on 24/7 and its solid.

i got a powerbook 1.33 recently, and i haven't turned it off yet. and not a single app has crashed so far.

[cmoney]

well if he's running os9 on a ti800, it'll feel much faster than even a new 1.33ghz albook. and do the new powerbooks even boot os9 anymore?

to each his own i guess. os x has been a godsend for me. after about 2 months of apprehension about making the switch (about 3 years ago anyway) i made the jump and erased all of my os9 apps and system folders. os x is just filled with yummy goodness, i really enjoy my macs nowadays.

back to powerbooks, my ti800 has served me well but after i got my g5 2x2, it's started to feel more and more sluggish. it'd probably be just fine if i hadn't gotten the g5, but ah well, time to move on.

anyone know when the new powerbooks are comin?