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Nov 2, 2004, 10:05 PM
 
I know that questions about RAM are asked time and time again, but I really want to make a good purchase. I've read threads about this, but everyone always seems unsure. I'll just ask my questions very directly:

A) Clicky. Is there a difference between this and Apple's 1GB stick of RAM, other than the company name? Is there a big difference in quality? Would I have less performance, more heat, etc.? Someone said something about low heat RAM, but if the voltage is the same, wouldn't it be the same heat? There seemed to be an argument back and forth as to whether this Kingmax RAM would work...and someone mentioned that there are two versions of it (low-heat and not). I'm so confused! The thread is here.

B) When one has more RAM, will there be more heat, even when that RAM is not being used? I don't know if I'll be surpassing 1GB that frequently, so if there's a negative aspect to more RAM, I might really want to stick with getting another 512MB stick...
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Nov 3, 2004, 04:51 AM
 
I can only speculate about heat - I've seen posts saying both that the PB's fans come on more often after a RAM upgrade and also that they come on less.

I can think of reasons to support each, which doesn't help

More RAM = more heat because the DIMMs themselves contribute to the heat of the machine.

Less RAM = more heat because hard drive access will be more frequent.

I would have guessed (and it is only a guess) that the latter would be the case more often, but that the low power DIMMs are designed to alleviate the former. Given the choice between a low-power DIMM and a standard one I'd go for the former if the price difference wasn't huge.

Hope that helps (or at least doesn't confuse you further).
     
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Nov 3, 2004, 08:16 AM
 
Originally posted by tavilach:
I know that questions about RAM are asked time and time again, but I really want to make a good purchase. I've read threads about this, but everyone always seems unsure. I'll just ask my questions very directly:

A) Is there a difference between this and Apple's 1GB stick of RAM

B) When one has more RAM, will there be more heat
A) Without knowing what manufacturer Apple uses its impossible. As I've said in prior threads, you get what you pay for. You got for the cheapest ram, you may be opening yourself up to issues. I'm not sure about Kingston. I’ve not had any problems with crucial memory, it may not be the cheapest but after spending so much for my PB, I don't want to skimp and have problems.

b) the laws of physics dictate that you will incur more heat, and energy consumption for that matter. The actual heat created and there by energy consumed is negligible, that is you probably won't notice as there are other component producing more heat.

Its your money get what ever you want.

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Nov 3, 2004, 07:52 PM
 
Did you look at your RAM chip?

My PB 17" is branded Samsung, so I bought another Samsung chip with the same specs. It might be cost a little more than other RAM, but hey, its a 2500$+ machine.
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Nov 3, 2004, 08:40 PM
 
bottom line:you get what you pay for to that end samsung ram is good and so is toshiba and apple generally speaking of course in the end its the price not brand that dictates quality.
     
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Nov 3, 2004, 10:56 PM
 
Corsair brand RAM is also known to be good.
     
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Nov 4, 2004, 12:47 AM
 
A topic more descriptive than "Repetitive Question" is something to keep in mind for the future.
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Nov 4, 2004, 06:34 AM
 
Originally posted by macaddict0001:
bottom line:you get what you pay for to that end samsung ram is good and so is toshiba and apple generally speaking of course in the end its the price not brand that dictates quality.
While I agree with that statement, I think I'm willing to pay a little more for peace of mind. For instance, does Samsung have different levels of memory chip quality.

The old Sear's syndrome, good, better and best. They used to (I'm not sure if they still) sell electronics and stuff like this. If Samsung does this, in other words less stringent testing for a given level memory chips, then there's no way for you to know unless you feel comfortable with the company your purchasing from.

This site, and many others are rife with people complaining and asking for help because of bad memory, or apple tightened the specifications. I have peace of mind that Crucial has not failed me and I'm reasonably sure that will contine

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Nov 4, 2004, 10:28 AM
 
isn't a repetitive question one that repeats?
isn't a repetitive question one that repeats?

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Nov 4, 2004, 01:39 PM
 
Originally posted by fisherKing:
isn't a repetitive question one that repeats?
isn't a repetitive question one that repeats?

     
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Nov 4, 2004, 09:27 PM
 
I will tell you that I do have the kingmax pc2700 from newegg and not only do they have great service but the ram works great. Haven't had a problem yet and I've been using the machine 6-10hrs a day (i'm in college) since the summer.

As for heat... any increase you see will be nominal... I'd agree with one of the above posters in saying it would probably be less b/c the HDD (which makes way more heat than ram) will be accessed less.
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Nov 4, 2004, 09:41 PM
 
Hmm...

wuzup and this are making me seriously consider getting myself this 1 GB stick!

Maybe I should even get two...but for someone who isn't an extreme power user, it's probably not $200 well spent.
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