[deaglecat]

My ibook 12inch with serial # in logic board replacement range refuses to boot. I get a black screen, no chimes but the keyboard lights work and the CD spins up (if I put one in).

No display on external monitor and also no bleeps.

It is out of warranty and I foolishly didn't take Applecare.

I phoned apple and they were all up for replacing the logic board until I couldn't confirm that the boot sequence does not chime. Then silence and "it is probably something else sir"

Did everyone else who had the dreaded logic board problem also get the chimes ok ! Should I try to find a tech support guy who will accept it or do they all run the same script ?

Thanks for your help

Deag.

[deaglecat]

So I am wondering, is it possible that the logic board failures can be caused by a fault in the hinge cable ?

This is my experience and I have seen a few posts on apple support that also seem to link the two problems...

[Zaurus]

iBook sucks
Apple in general

my iBook kills the hard disk without any reason

even PC notebook won't do this to me

i'd rather they don't lower the price...but provide better quality stuff instead

they're all Made-in-China now

[B Gallagher]

Zaurus, I know this is any solace, but PC laptop hard drives also fail. It's not just macs.

[CarKeys]

"they're all Made-in-China now"

I resent the implication that things made in China are cheap...

[discotronic]

Originally posted by Zaurus:
iBook sucks
Apple in general

my iBook kills the hard disk without any reason

even PC notebook won't do this to me

i'd rather they don't lower the price...but provide better quality stuff instead

they're all Made-in-China now

Windows is from the US and is nothing but crap.

[ghporter]

Originally posted by Zaurus:
iBook sucks
Apple in general

my iBook kills the hard disk without any reason

even PC notebook won't do this to me

i'd rather they don't lower the price...but provide better quality stuff instead

they're all Made-in-China now

iBooks are made in Taiwan-quite a bit of difference, especially from a quality-of-product standpoint. Just because you have had a bad experience-and still apparently hasn't contacted Apple about repairing the defective machine-does not make the iBook a bad product.

Flaming the product doesn't get your data back, nor does it tell Apple that your specific machine has had a problem. The only way to get the machine (still under warranty) fixed is to contact Apple. And don't ever rely on having your data in a single spot; always, ALWAYS back up important stuff. Doesn't your iBook have a combo drive? How much can a few CDs cost, anyway? I lived on ramen noodles many a week while in school so I could afford something...

Remember, this forum is for discussion, not venting or flaming.

[Zaurus]

sorry guys
maybe i was just too mad

i mean Dell's laptop is so easy to disassembly and take out the hard disk

but Mac's are too complicated
(actually, Dell's has a slot-in socket for you to replace hard disk in second)

if it happens to a Dell, i will sure take out the hard disk and did a recover on it
but iBook just too difficult to do so



and this is the first time i had a hard disk die within 1 yr.. and i didn't even do any downloading on it
just a plain OSX



actually i suspect the heat kills my hard disk
(everyone knows iBooks are hot .... i installed a temp monitor and it shows an average 60 C degree even i just use it to surf the net)

i feel disappointed at it

[ghporter]

60º C is not really very hot for a computer's internals, and surfing uses the hard drive a lot.

The complexity in the iBook's design is the cost for making it the smallest and lightest notebook computer around. Dells are designed for various corporate environments where you may need to swap out the hard drive for a number of reasons. It does make it easier to upgrade the drive or recover the data, but look how big Dell's smallest notebook is when compared to an iBook.

Anyway, back to the thread's subject. Deaglecat, if your serial number is in the logic board replacement program range what's the problem? Call Apple and arrange for them to fix it. Back up your hard drive's data first, since they do not guarantee anything about your data being safe, but otherwise, I don't see the problem.

[Xaero]

Dell may have easier to replace HDD's but they don't have the overall quality of a Mac laptop or the look and features. Compare the toughness of the iBook to that of a Dell Latitude X300.

[finboy]

Originally posted by deaglecat:
So I am wondering, is it possible that the logic board failures can be caused by a fault in the hinge cable ?

This is my experience and I have seen a few posts on apple support that also seem to link the two problems...

I've always thought that they were linked, either as a short-out or a physical tug. But I haven't dissected my iBook to test it -- quality of design is Apple's baileywick.

[Zaurus]

Originally posted by Xaero:
Dell may have easier to replace HDD's but they don't have the overall quality of a Mac laptop or the look and features. Compare the toughness of the iBook to that of a Dell Latitude X300.

that's hard to make judgement on that
since my iBook broke less than a year and my friend's Dell works fine for 2 yrs

and i didn't "physically" kill it myself

[MartiNZ]

On the original question:

Did everyone else who had the dreaded logic board problem also get the chimes ok?

My 800MHz G3 iBook's logic board passed away about 15 months ago, while the machine was still under warranty. At that point I thought something was wrong with the display as it was the main thing affected - the machine booted fine, with chimes and all, you just couldn't see anything. When I got it back after 3 weeks, I was surprised to hear it had rather been the logic board.

And it happened again just last week, but this time I knew what it was. The startup chime still sounded, and if the machine was sitting perfectly stably it could get through startup, but one bump after that and it panicked. This time it's out of warranty but covered by the Programme. I just took it back to where I bought it with a printout from apple.com.

I'm hoping to get it back in a week or two, and then I'm thinking it might just be time to upgrade .