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Can I safely recreate my old user on my new PB?
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Feb 28, 2005, 02:49 PM
 
Hi
My old TiBook 667MHz (OS 10.3.7) was replaced by Apple. I had to send the old TiBook in, before getting a new AlBook 4 weeks later.

Before sending it in I had to back up my files onto other drives (I did one full backup of my old User file in Retrospect through an Ethernet connection to an old Beige G3 that has an 80 GB drive, and several additional copies of "can't lose" photos and documents in various places).

Now I have the new AlBook and I would like to do a clean reinstall of 10.3.7 to get rid of extraneous bundleware, and then transfer my prior User files into the new machine. Apple's standard file migration tool is not an option since I don't actually have the old machine (and it is not firewire-equipped anyway). I simply have a copy of my Userfolder.

Based on recovering the old TiBook from some hard drive crashes in the past, I believe I can create the old user in the terminal application

Apple's instructions, including how to re-create a user using terminal

Of course, the old user was set up for a TiBook 667, not an AlBook 1.67 MHz. Do people think I am safe doing this? Is there anything to watch out for?
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Feb 28, 2005, 09:41 PM
 
How exact are you trying to reproduce your user folder? Why don't you just create the same user on the new machine, copy over all your important files, and reinstall any applications you need? I guess I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here.

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Feb 28, 2005, 10:04 PM
 
Just worry about your data.
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Feb 28, 2005, 10:04 PM
 
You have to re-create the old user.
i.e. I have a new AlBook. I could create a New user with the same user name as Old User that existed on my prior TiBook (i.e. the one whose Old User folder I copied before Apple made me send in the whole TiBook as part of the replacement program).

Creating a New User with the same name as the old User, and copying over all the new files, however, will not allow the old Preferences and permissions to actually work properly, even if the name is the same.

The New user needs to be empowered to take over the identity of the old one, and that can only be done from within the Root User, using commands in Terminal mode. Effectively, you go in at the much-to-be-feared "root" level, throw away all your User files, and then copy over (from an external drive) the Old User file you aim to restore.

To get that old user ot work, you use terminal commands to make that Old user a new user on the current machine. It gives me the creeps to go mucking around in Root like this (I am really ignorant of the basic UNIX core of OS X) but if you don't have your old computer and the brand new one tied together by firewire, then this is how Apple says to do it.

Here is what I can paste in from the relevant knowledge base:

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These steps assume that you backed up as described in Section II above. It is additionally assumed that you have just erased the hard disk and reinstalled Mac OS X, or that you have purchased a new computer. In either case, you would start at the Mac OS X Setup Assistant.

Important: When recreating users in Steps 1 and 4 below, be sure that the short names are typed exactly as they were when you made the backup.

1. In the Setup Assistant, create a user account with the same user name and short name that you previously used for your Admin user. If you only had one user (yourself) on the computer, you were the Admin user and may skip to Step 5 after completing the Setup Assistant.
2. After completing the Setup Assistant, choose System Preferences from the Apple menu.
3. Choose Users from the View menu.
4. For each user that you backed up, create a new user account using the same user name and short name.
5. Log in as the root user. For more help with this step, see technical document 106290: "Mac OS X: About the root User and How to Enable It".
6. Click the Finder icon in the Dock.
7. Choose Go To Folder from the Go menu.
8. Type "/Users/" and click Go.
9. Drag the contents of the Users folder to the Trash.
10. From your backup storage location or disk, drag the contents of the backed-up Users folder into the empty Users folder on the Mac OS X disk.
11. Put away or eject your backup disk.
12. Open Terminal (/Applications/Utilities/).
13. Type: chown -R <username> /Users/<username>

Important: In this step and in Step 15 below, you would replace "<username>" with the actual user short name, which should match exactly the name of the user folder. So for a user named Jeanne DuBois with a short name of "jeanne", you would type:

chown -R jeanne /Users/jeanne

14. Press Return.
15. Type: chgrp -R staff /Users/<username>
16. Press Return.
17. Repeat Steps 13 through 16 for each additional user that you created in Steps 2 through 4, if applicable.
18. Quit Terminal.
19. Choose Log Out from the Apple menu.
20. Log back in as your normal Admin user.
21. Be sure that you can access your files. If you cannot access your files, log back in as root and repeat steps 13 through 20.
22. Disable root login as described in technical document 106290.
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Feb 28, 2005, 10:13 PM
 
Hi

Prior to sending away my TiBook, I backed up everything in 2 places at least, often 3. It gets tricky because I have limited hard drive resources at home and I dedicated those to fully backing up photos, music, journals and preference files, all on at least 2 drives, generally in separate machines. My work documents are maintained on dual and continuously backed up servers at work so I have continued to use those during the 3 week hiatus between sending away my TiBook and receiving this AlBook

I am attempting my principle restore from a Retrospect Backup of the entire User file that I did the night before sending everything away.

I would be happiest if the old user crops up nicely and is fully permissioned to access keychains, favorites, documents, application preferences, etc. I think this will work, but I have never actually gone from an older powerbook to a newer one, only from a failed hard drive to a replacement hard drive (in the same machine).
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