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MikeD · Apr 30, 2005, 10:53 AM

I know that it 'can' be done... But should it? My wife has a G3 iBook and I didn't know if I get Tiger for her. Would it make the experience worse for her? We are planning on upgrading the computer in the near future (possibly to a new ibook or powerbook).

Thanks,
Mike

damosan · Apr 30, 2005, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by MikeD

I know that it 'can' be done... But should it? My wife has a G3 iBook and I didn't know if I get Tiger for her. Would it make the experience worse for her? We are planning on upgrading the computer in the near future (possibly to a new ibook or powerbook).

Thanks,
Mike

I went from 10.2.8 to 10.4 and the difference is night and day. Don't know what the experience would be going from 10.3 to .4 though.

Damo

MikeD · Apr 30, 2005, 12:12 PM

Damo,

I'm guessing you're in a G3 ibook and by night and day it's for the better?

Mike

fhoubi · Apr 30, 2005, 12:22 PM

Upgraded from 10.3.7 to 10.4 on a G3 700 iBook. Only one problem after approx. 12 hours of use: printing on my Canon i865 is suddently yellowish (with Elements 2.0), I have to adjust yellow to -20% to get a somewhat decent photo output. Otherwise no probs at all!

Spotlight is a "oncehaveitneverwanttolooseitanymore" thing. It will change the way you work much more than f.e. Expose. Slideshow from within a directory/folder is neat. Mail looks uglier, but works better for me. Feels faster (at least Safari). I recommend 384MB or more. Is it worth the money? Dunno. If you can afford it, go for it.

andretan · Apr 30, 2005, 01:43 PM

I've upgraded from 10.2 to 10.3 and now, 10.4

10.4 seems Snappier(TM) and Safari 2.0 is pretty fast.

Although I don't see the ripple effect thingy in Dashboard. Probably because I've only got 16MB of VRAM, just enough for Quartz Extreme I guess.

iBook G3 700 with 640MB RAM, 40GB HD.

damosan · Apr 30, 2005, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by MikeD

Damo,

I'm guessing you're in a G3 ibook and by night and day it's for the better?

Mike

Yes. My application set is pretty much limited to Word, Excel, Safari, a few commandline apps and Mail so YMMV of course.

I have a G3/700 with 640 megs.

Damo

zpctg · May 4, 2005, 10:59 AM

i have also a G3/700,but with 384, before i run tiger i wanna buy a 512MB, so guys, could you recommend me some kinds of RAMs except for apple that work with my apple?
thanks
vincent

Ozzpot · May 4, 2005, 11:06 AM

I put Tiger on my iMacDV (G3) 400, and it is SWEET.

It was previously running 10.3.0 I think. I know it was running Panther, and it is not connected to the internet as I use it exclusively for backup every now and again via firewire/target disk mode. So I think it was Panther out of the box.

Anyway, I have put Tiger on now and it seems to be slightly slinkier, although I hardly use it so couldn't comment on it's performance in general.

I say go for it.

willed · May 6, 2005, 03:12 AM

Having been on 10.2.8 on my iBook 500, I have to say Tiger is brilliant. Feels like a new computer. No need to get rid of this thing for a while now (except that the HD is nearly full and I've deleted everything I can!)

golas · May 7, 2005, 09:47 PM

G3 800 w/ 640 MB Ram here, wery happy with the performance boost from tiger. Upgraded from Panther and had a big improvement in the GUI!

Kreamy · May 8, 2005, 12:31 PM

IMO i don't feel that tiger made such a large difference.

Performance-wise, my iBook runs the same on both OSes.

Spotlight is merely a nice feature, but i never use it. Quicksilver is the way for me.

Same goes for dashboard - nice, but, sorry Apple, 100 widgets? Konfabulator wins this time.

I really don't like the topbar either, what's with the gloss, like apple needed something additional to clash with the Pinstripes and Brushed. Luckily, a few taps of Shapeshifter sorted that out

To sum it up: 10.2 > 10.4 makes sense, but 10.3 > 10.4 really doesn't

Ozzpot · May 8, 2005, 01:07 PM

No offense to the author, but personally I would have to disagree with most of the comments in the post above.

� Tiger includes many many performance tweaks which should make a difference no matter what machine you are using. I have installed it on both my iMac G3/400 and my iBook G4/933, and both are noticably snappier. Booting and logging in are both faster, most applications launch far far quicker, most notably System Preferences (about 3-4 times faster). Open GL drivers are also improved, increasing my framerate in UT2004 by about 60% for a start. This also benefits many other functions of the OS.

� Spotlight is an extremely useful feature. I use it maybe 20-30 times a day. As a long-time Quicksilver user, I find Spotlight very intuitive and must say it compares favourably with it's third-party counterpart. It is not quite as fast, but more advance in the way it organizes results, and more stable.

� Dashboard is awesome, and probably the most desirable feature of Tiger to new users. It has obviously been compared to Konfabulator, but this is not really fair if you ask me. I am a Konfab Widget developer, and have a few in the galleries totalling about 40,000 downloads I think, so I know what I am talking about. Dashboard Widgets are more advanced and capable of a lot more than Konfabulator Widgets. Apple's own Widgets are very nicely designed, very useful and very polished. Yes, there are only 100-150 Widgets out there right now, but Tiger is only 10 days old! Konfabulator has about 1000 Widgets, but it's been going for well over a year!

� I actually quite like the new interface changes, but I agree it is a little inconsistent in places, but then, as mentioned, ShapeShifter is Tiger compatible abnd the themes are rolling in again (just wait for NickelCobalt!! - Best theme ever!)

I would say it is definitely worth the upgrade. I have been using OSX for years, and have never missed even a 0.0.X update. I went from 10.3.9 to Tiger, and if I had to pay another $100 I would.

Kreamy · May 8, 2005, 02:21 PM

Ozzpot: You make some compelling points, however correct me if im wrong, but doesn't Tiger consume more system memory? Consecutively, this adds more to the pagefile and should make the system run slower.

Ozzpot · May 8, 2005, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Kreamy

Ozzpot: You make some compelling points, however correct me if im wrong, but doesn't Tiger consume more system memory? Consecutively, this adds more to the pagefile and should make the system run slower.

Maybe this is true, but it certainly seems to me that both my systems are faster and smoother. Maybe this is a result of other improvements unrelated to system memory. :-/

cold aspiration · May 8, 2005, 05:34 PM

I have a 800 G4 with 640 RAM and my brother has a 1gh G4 with 840ram. He thinks that upgrading to tiger will make his system slower because it consumes more system memory. So he has been reluctant to buy a family pack with me. Does his logic have any validity and how much?

Kreamy · May 9, 2005, 08:32 AM

A) well most people say that tiger is faster, i have not noticed anything in the UI personally, no slowdowns or performance enhancements either, but after a user mentioned it i Had to get the UT2004 demo and test out the OpenGL engine, and its BLAZING fast - certainly much faster than it used to be.

Ps. i think your brother has 768mb ram.

Ozzpot · May 9, 2005, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Kreamy

A) well most people say that tiger is faster, i have not noticed anything in the UI personally, no slowdowns or performance enhancements either, but after a user mentioned it i Had to get the UT2004 demo and test out the OpenGL engine, and its BLAZING fast - certainly much faster than it used to be.

Yeah, I have the full version of UT2004, and it is MUCH faster than it used to be on Panther.
I can now set the resolution to maximum, have all the checkboxes ticked and all the settings on Normal, and I still get an acceptable framerate (20-30fps). Panther was about 12-18fps on the same settings (not really playable). I still need to check out SimCity 4 to see if that's any better.

Glad to see Apple are serious about working on openGL!

cold aspiration · May 9, 2005, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Kreamy

A) well most people say that tiger is faster, i have not noticed anything in the UI personally, no slowdowns or performance enhancements either, but after a user mentioned it i Had to get the UT2004 demo and test out the OpenGL engine, and its BLAZING fast - certainly much faster than it used to be.

Ps. i think your brother has 768mb ram.

thanks, sounds like another point to make. And yeah he does have 768