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Warning: David Gray Dual Disc w/ Slot Loading
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Maybe it's just my stupid luck, but I got the new David Gray CD "Life in Slow Motion" [DualDisc] and loaded it into my PB 12" 1.33Ghz Combo Drive.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...c&n=507846
I inserted the disc, a little sticky loading, played fine though..... but when I tried to eject it, it just whirred like hell and maybe a half inch peeked out. I had to grab the disc to pul/yankl it out.
The disc is scratched and will not play now. Not only that but my Combo Drive scrapes on any disc inserted since then.
Here's why: The Dual Disc is thicker than normal discs.
There is a warning on the CD/DVD stating that "It may not operate with a few select players".
Ok, that's fine, but maybe they should let us know that it can also destroy them.
I know the music industry is trying to come up with ways to include "value added content", but maybe they should better spend their time making good discs and good music.....
~Echo
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I'm not sure I understand. The disk is physically thicker? Do you mean instead of a truly two-sided disk, like many movie DVDs are, that is the same thickness as a regular DVD, they took 2 DVDs and stuck them back to back? That must violate some kind of DVD spec. Or am I not understanding how this was done?
Steve
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I noticed that the other day with the Ben Folds DualDisc album. Actually it wasn't nearly as bad for me, but it didn't seem to quite come out as much as it should. I had to grab the shiny part of the disc and pull it out, rather than being able to hold it in the center.
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Originally Posted by ibook_steve
I'm not sure I understand. The disk is physically thicker? Do you mean instead of a truly two-sided disk, like many movie DVDs are, that is the same thickness as a regular DVD, they took 2 DVDs and stuck them back to back? That must violate some kind of DVD spec. Or am I not understanding how this was done?
Steve
Yes, the disc is actually thicker, though not x2 as thick. Say, maybe, a 1/3 thicker than normal. If you look at the edge, it looks like it was seam sealed or "glued" together.
That was what it meant on the packaging as "will not play on all players". Shoddy in my mind.
~Echo
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DualDisc is the RIAA's effort to kill off regular audio discs with limited edition DVDs, they've priced these versions cheaper than the regular cd or offered 5.1 audio on the DVD side. Also since DualDiscs aren't made by one pressing company, quality control is a bit flakey at best as some are thicker than others.
For now if anyone does buy DualDiscs, seriously consider keeping a external firewire DVD drive around, that investment is better than causing harm to the PB/iBook/Mac mini/iMacG5 optical drive.
As for my 12" 1.33Ghz PowerBook with combo drive, I had zero problems with the DualDisc edition of Oasis's current album 
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