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atypical booting problem - PMU/PRAM reset no good, won't boot off disc, no screen
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May 4, 2006, 07:36 PM
 
12" PB, 1GHz, 512MB RAM, OSX.3

my computer isn't starting up or even trying to boot and none of the standard resets seem to help. i do not think it the the HDD, rather, i think it is the power management unit:

i have tried resetting the pram (multiple times), resetting the pmu (multiple times), and tried booting off the system disc but it doesn't even try. in fact, if i do a PRAM reset, i don't get a nice mac "gong" but an annoying "beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep" and a rapidly flashing sleep light. what does THAT mean!?!

i have had a couple episodes in the past where my computer was very stubborn to wake up - or it was stubborn in that it didn't go to sleep all the way. i would close the lid and the screen would turn off (most of these times) but the HD and cpu were still cranking away. i would return in a couple hours to find my computer smoking hot because i left it on my bed (insulation).

now when i attempt to turn it on, it goes through a standard hardware check; where the disc drive and HDD give a quick whir, and the startup chime dongs, but the screen doesn't come on and the cooling fan blasts like crazy - which is wrong because the computer is ice cold. and the HDD and disc drives are conspicuously silent (after the mac chime).

HDD usually give different kinds of signals - and usually time. i don't think my hdd is even getting signals to boot.

i thought maybe the PRAM battery needs to be replaced but then i read on apples website that all ibook G4s and 12" powerbooks don't have batteries, rather a capacitor that can keep the clock going for 20 seconds. i have unplugged it and pulled the battery for a couple hours in effort to drain the capacitor and any other power storage device, but that didn't work either.

i also read that the 12" powerbook is unique from the 15" PB in that it doesn't have a separate PMU board, rather everything is on the logic board (analogous to mother board).

i am about to look for used replacement logic boards (i am attached to this old horse), but before i do are there any other key combination, clever resets that i can try?

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May 5, 2006, 01:00 AM
 
How many times does does the light flash? This could help diagnose. Do you have an SO-DIMM installed? If so, try taking it out and running. Sounds like a bad DIMM.

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May 5, 2006, 10:59 AM
 
Originally Posted by ibook_steve
How many times does does the light flash? This could help diagnose. Do you have an SO-DIMM installed? If so, try taking it out and running. Sounds like a bad DIMM.

Steve
i have the additional 256MB card that came with the machine from apple. i have not touched it since i bought the computer. i will remove it and see what happens.

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May 5, 2006, 11:00 AM
 
Originally Posted by ibook_steve
How many times does does the light flash? This could help diagnose. Do you have an SO-DIMM installed? If so, try taking it out and running. Sounds like a bad DIMM.

Steve

oh, i never paid much attention to how many flashes it is. it is pretty fast, though - i'd guess it is flashing at a pace in the region of 10Hz.

i will double check again tonight.
     
   
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