[Taveira]

Hey guys,
Just got my MacBook Pro, came home, installed windows and was amazed to how stable the OS operated. Heres a video of F.E.A.R running on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM1M_k9xPG0

With Intel added, I don't see any reason PCs should be favored over Macs...

[danny_gasperini]

I am sure people will still buy Wintel PCs over Intel Macs becuase of the cost factor. You can get a crusty no-name PC for less than a Mac. That's obvious! But you can't run MacOS X AND Windows on those machines at full speed. My vote goes to the PC/Mac in a 1" thinck case

[jhonizzle]

well, the PowerMac intels (whenever that happens) will be the ultimate Machine, because then you'll have the top Gaming Machine for PC's, and the Top Everything Machine for Mac's, the MacBook Pro is really just a Portable Version of that.... i just wish XP didn't take so much disc space. I'm Going to try Tiny XP on my MBP to see if i can still run my games, without all the other BS that comes with XP

[sieb]

nLite is your friend. http://nliteos.com/

[harrisjamieh]

Just downloaded the F.E.A.R demo onto both my MacBook (non pro) and my iMac core duo. It plays perfectly on my iMac, and very, very near perfectly on my MacBook w/GMA950 and 768 RAM. This I was surprised about, as I was expecting the MB to be crappy, but its not!

The second I starting playing the game on my MB however, the fans ramped up to full blast, and only went down when I quit the game... boohoo

[sieb]

Hmm.. What visual game settings did you have set on your MB? And what we're the FPS?

[exsilio]

If only you could have fast switching - then it would be truly seamless and practical to own one and only one.

[Big Mac]

But how much are you going to be using OS X and supporting OS X software and hardware development if you're going to be spending so much time in Windows? And more importantly, what's the point of third parties developing for OS X at all if they can tell you just to run the Windows versions of their products?

[danny_gasperini]

Originally Posted by Big Mac

But how much are you going to be using OS X and supporting OS X software and hardware development if you're going to be spending so much time in Windows? And more importantly, what's the point of third parties developing for OS X at all if they can tell you just to run the Windows versions of their products?

This is the situation as i see it:

Intel Macs that can run Windows natively will increase the number of Mac users running Windows apps and therefore decrease the amount of demand for Mac apps, causing a drop in development by third parties for Mac versions of their software.

On the other hand,

The fact that Intel macs can now run Windows and all the Windows software will increase the amount of switchers, as they don't have to immediately re-invest in getting Mac versions of all of their existing Windows software (a major hurdle to date). Over time I believe these switchers will start spending less time running Windows and more time running MacOS X, because of the obvious benefits that MacOS has over Windows. This will then increase the demand for Mac versions of third party software.

It will be interesting to see which scenario plays out over time.

[Zeeb]

Originally Posted by Big Mac

But how much are you going to be using OS X and supporting OS X software and hardware development if you're going to be spending so much time in Windows? And more importantly, what's the point of third parties developing for OS X at all if they can tell you just to run the Windows versions of their products?

Is the original poster new to Apple? If he (or she) is more comfortable in windows then that may be what enticed him to switch. Since he bought an Apple computer he's supporting Apple hardware and software isn't he?

OS X wont survive because a few people feel loyal and want to defend the platform against windows. The market will determine if OS X can survive.

[Taveira]

Originally Posted by Zeeb

Is the original poster new to Apple? If he (or she) is more comfortable in windows then that may be what enticed him to switch. Since he bought an Apple computer he's supporting Apple hardware and software isn't he?

OS X wont survive because a few people feel loyal and want to defend the platform against windows. The market will determine if OS X can survive.

No, I have both G4 and G5 towers. I use final cut and mac apps alot, and back apple 100%. I'm just happy I have the ability to play games now. Thats the only reason I'm happy about the ability to run XP on Intel Systems. The Gaming Factor.

Other than that, XP can kiss my ***

[justinkim]

Well, I'm thrilled that I'll be able to play games like Dawn of War, F.E.A.R., Far Cry, etc... that seem unlikely to make it to OSX.

Now all Apple and Intel have to do is get Core 2 Duo laptops out soon

[Helmling]

Come on...pro-end Mac apps will live on people.

This thread is all about the one thing missing on Macs--the ONE thing--and that is games. I teach high school and I've converted many of them, but the biggest hold-up for these kids is the games. Well, now you can, if you wish, run any PC game on your Intel Mac.

Me, though, I still don't think I will. It hurt me seeing Windows boot up on that beautiful MBP. But then again, I used to be quite a gamer...I might succomb to temptation when the time actually comes.

[herald]

Everyone here seems to forget why people buy Macs in the first place. It is the user experience. We want a great user experience, software that just works. Application developers will not stop developing simply because Mac users will continue to want the Mac experience. Windoze on Macs is simply a convenience not a replacement.

Don't forget, major apps have been available on the Windows platform for decades now, I have not seen massive migrations to windows.