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Totally fed up with firewire.
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Jun 20, 2006, 09:48 AM
 
I have a Ti running all the latest and greatest updates from apple. The firewire is absolutely awful. I have a firewire hard drive and even if I eject it properly it will never remount on the desktop. I have to unplug everything, shut the computer down, start it up, then plug the firewire drive in. This is the same for my firewire iPod too.

Does anyone know what the firewire drive lists as in /dev so I can see if it's just a mount problem or a problem with the firewire connection not detecting it all? Is there anyway to re-initialize firewire without actually rebooting the machine?
     
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Jun 20, 2006, 09:51 AM
 
I have several FireWire drives, and none of them show the problems you describe. If I eject any of them, all I need to do is disconnect and then reconnect the cable to get them to mount again (or manually do it in Disk Utility).

Sounds like you may have a bad FireWire controller. Or maybe it's the cable, or the drive itself.
     
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Jun 20, 2006, 09:59 AM
 
I'm sure it isn't the cable, I've tried a few.

When I do apple > about this mac > system profiler and click on the firewire I get nothing but

FireWire bus:

When I reboot I get the info back. If my firewire controller is indeed bad I wouldn't expect it to work everytime I shutdown and restart.
     
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Jun 20, 2006, 10:37 AM
 
This seems like a hardware problem. Moving …
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Jun 20, 2006, 12:01 PM
 
If you want to find the device in /dev, just type 'df' in the terminal (without the quotes) when the FireWire drive is mounted.

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Jun 20, 2006, 01:24 PM
 
I have to unplug everything, shut the computer down, start it up, then plug the firewire drive in.
I have the same problem with a Lacie hard drive on an Intel iMac. USB 2 works fine.
     
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Jun 20, 2006, 02:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kajo
I have a Ti running all the latest and greatest updates from apple. The firewire is absolutely awful.
Having used a variety of firewire drives on a variety of Macs, this is not a widespread problem. It's probably an incompatibility with your particular drive- perhaps a firmware update for it would solve the problem.
     
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Jun 20, 2006, 04:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by ChrisF
Having used a variety of firewire drives on a variety of Macs, this is not a widespread problem. It's probably an incompatibility with your particular drive- perhaps a firmware update for it would solve the problem.

When drive is mounted go to about this mac and see which chipset your firewire device has. Some non Oxford chipsets have problems you are having!
     
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Jun 20, 2006, 04:08 PM
 
my powerbook totally messed up my firewire dockdrive-connected hard drive sometime soon after i bought it (the powerbook). after i spent several days recovedring the data from the drive, i switched to a usb2 external case (for the same hard drive) and have had no problems since. a couple of weeks ago, 8 monthd after i bought the pb, i finally wiped it clean (i've had some other minor issues since the beginning as well), and worked up the courage to re-try the firewire connector, and so far all seems to be well.

so essentially, the computer was screwed up on several fronts 'out of the box', but a clean install solved most of those issues. i would recommend trying it if you can afford to.
     
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Jun 20, 2006, 04:25 PM
 
FireWire will go the way of ADB just as soon as Apple can make it so. Small comfort, I know. It'll hang around for a few years as a way to get digital video off a camcorder, but if you are waiting for FireWire 1600, FireWire 3200 or (giggle) FireWireLess you really need to stop with the cool-aid. Ain't none of them happening in this version of reality.

You could try updating the drivers on the drive, but I wouldn't hold out hope.
     
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Jun 21, 2006, 06:17 AM
 
maybe its an Oxford Firewire bridge chip which needs a firmware update. In such case you need to contact Lacie and they will provide you with the firmware from Oxford Semiconductors oxsemi.com
     
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Jun 21, 2006, 11:05 AM
 
I've had this problem before on my 17" 1ghz PB. Search around for solutions on the web. It works fine now.
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Jun 23, 2006, 11:36 AM
 
This is what appears in system profiler on a succesful mount:

FireWire Bus:

Maximum Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec

1394 Storage Front Panel*:

Manufacturer: Maxtor
Model: 0x5000
GUID: 0x10B920001F7FD9
Maximum Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Sub-units:
1394 Storage Front Panel* Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0xCEB001
Unit Spec ID: 0x10B9
5000XT v1.00.00 Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0x10483
Unit Spec ID: 0x609E
Firmware Revision: 0x10000
Product Revision Level: 0100
Sub-units:
5000XT v1.00.00 SBP-LUN:
Capacity: 233.76 GB
Removable Media: Yes
BSD Name: disk2
OS9 Drivers: No
S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported
Volumes:
OSX:
Capacity: 108.88 GB
Available: 68.2 GB
Writable: Yes
File System: HFS+
BSD Name: disk2s5
Mount Point: /Volumes/OSX
WINXP:
Capacity: 63.76 GB
Available: 31.2 GB
Writable: Yes
File System: MS-DOS FAT32
BSD Name: disk2s6
Mount Point: /Volumes/WINXP
     
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Jun 23, 2006, 11:37 AM
 
And this being a Ti I have no USB2.0 support... so unless I want to move along at USB1.0 speeds I've got to stick with firewire.
     
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Jun 23, 2006, 02:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kajo
And this being a Ti I have no USB2.0 support... so unless I want to move along at USB1.0 speeds I've got to stick with firewire.
you could always get something like this.
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