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is a TiBook a great Deal today or its not?
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Sep 28, 2006, 11:35 PM
 
check this out, a guy who work on an airport told me that he "found" a Powerbook g4 but he can't use it because it's locked... he he he, I told him, let me see it and when I start it up, it just boot up normal and the login window was waiting for the name and password to enter, so I look this guy and told him, you know... this is mess up (I know what to do to use it he he and so are you guys) I told him: I need some of it for parts, how much you want, and he said $300.00...

it is a PowerBook G4 Tibook, with airport card installed, 667Mhz, 512mb RAM, 30gig HD with AC cable and a combo drive, it's that a great deal or it doesn't worth it...? it seems pretty new, and I know It doesn't had anything wrong...

What do you think I should do?
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Sep 28, 2006, 11:43 PM
 
Compared to the TiBooks being sold on ebay, that's a really good deal.
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Sep 29, 2006, 12:08 AM
 
its funny because that was your 666th post. you should be ashamed.
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Sep 29, 2006, 01:08 AM
 
It's probably stolen. I'd try at least a little bit to find its rightful owner, and if you can't then $300 is a pretty good deal for that machine.
     
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Sep 29, 2006, 03:58 AM
 
Oh go for it, $300 is a good deal for it for sure
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Sep 29, 2006, 06:12 AM
 
$300 is a good deal... IF it was his. I would say talk him down to $150 - $200 since he found it. And a very nice thing to do would be to see if you can find out who's PowerBook it used to belong to (based on the data in there)... and mail him/her the hard drive.
     
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Sep 29, 2006, 06:18 AM
 
Does your friend work as airport security? If so he probably stole it right out of someone's luggage. Filthy scumbag. Anyone who does this or knowingly buys hot gear should be shot.
     
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Sep 29, 2006, 04:38 PM
 
I believed him when he told me it was "found". I don't think it was stolen. It's just that sometimes stuff appear from nowhere and obviously they didn't report it. They know the procedure and if they know somebody else will take it or throwing it away, why not let someone to keep it. If you found $500.00 dollars cash I really doubt you will be looking for the owner... so please. this guy don't know anything about Macs, and if I don't buy it someone else will... so, it's a good machine at that price or today that G4 its just for net and word docs?
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Sep 29, 2006, 05:05 PM
 
I think the consensus is that, yes, it's good deal. You could flip it for $400-$450 minimum. BUT, I think you can talk him down a bit too... that's all. I just think that since it's not his (he didn't pay for it), he'd be willing to go down on the price a bit. (Since it's pure profit)
     
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Sep 29, 2006, 05:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by TC5
Does your friend work as airport security? If so he probably stole it right out of someone's luggage. Filthy scumbag. Anyone who does this or knowingly buys hot gear should be shot.
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Sep 29, 2006, 05:19 PM
 
Look, you basically admit that you know that it is stolen. Walk away.
     
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Originally Posted by I WAS the One
I believed him when he told me it was "found". I don't think it was stolen. It's just that sometimes stuff appear from nowhere and obviously they didn't report it. They know the procedure and if they know somebody else will take it or throwing it away, why not let someone to keep it. If you found $500.00 dollars cash I really doubt you will be looking for the owner... so please. this guy don't know anything about Macs, and if I don't buy it someone else will... so, it's a good machine at that price or today that G4 its just for net and word docs?
"stuff appear from nowhere" = stolen

"why not let someone to keep it" = stealing

"If you found $500.00 dollars cash I really doubt you will be looking for the owner" = wrong. You report it to the police and try to find the owner before even considering the possibility of keeping it. Don't judge the morality of people on this board when it certainly appears like your morality is in question.

I think "scumbag" was a very good description of this person and after this note, I'm starting to think it should apply to you as well.

Do the right thing. Use your Mac knowledge for good instead of evil and find out who the owner is. Call airport security and have them try to find the owner. I get scared to death when I have to take my laptop out at security while I wait to go through the metal detector that it will be gone when I get through, and you have confirmed that I should be scared.

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Sep 29, 2006, 09:51 PM
 
And chipchen is also an scumbag with his "mail the owner the hard drive" garbage--what a lowlife. If you find someone's stolen or lost computer and you know who the owner is, YOU RETURN IT. If you don't know, YOU GO OUT AND FIND OUT. This isn't kindergarten, people.
     
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Sep 29, 2006, 09:54 PM
 
check this out, a guy who work on an airport told me that he "found" a Powerbook
Maybe you could trade it in for a English 101 class and someday be employable and able to afford to buy **** you want not steal it? Bru'dah!
     
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Sep 29, 2006, 10:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by mrmister
And chipchen is also an scumbag with his "mail the owner the hard drive" garbage--what a lowlife.
WTF? That's not necessary... Of course the best thing that could happen would be to get the previous owner of the PB back his laptop... but if that's not gonna happen, what's wrong with trying to encourage a little good out of a bad situation?

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Sep 29, 2006, 10:55 PM
 
MrMister has no high horse: it was repo'd after his promising early 80's career ended with his duet with that gal from T'Pau. At best these days he can step down from his high brick-that-I-found-at-a-building-site-late-at-night.

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Sep 30, 2006, 01:51 AM
 
You know what? you guys are right. I feel Bad. for that reason I will call him tomorrow and tell him I don't know how to fix that PB and forget about it... after returned it I will buy the same used TiBook for $750.00 on eBay, and I will feel better. (no sarcasm) so, thanx and sorry about that. It will never happen again. I promise.
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Sep 30, 2006, 03:33 AM
 
I say still buy the book, but if you are a good natured person you should try to return it to the original owner. It could be important to someone, perhaps a doctor or lawyer working on something important and all the files needed for said importance is contained on that laptop?

I am sure the owner would be happy to reimburse you for the favor. You never know, you could end up getting it back to the owner and then the owner could turn around and buy you a better laptop just to say thankyou! Never know whats on there.

Then again it could have child pornography on there and handing it over to the police could help them catch someone they have been after for years and making the world a little safer for our kids.

Do it man, buy it and find out!
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Oct 3, 2006, 04:59 PM
 
Go karma!

Offer your colleague amybe $150 for the book - then try to find th eowner using the data. If you can't well, you did your best, if you can then get hold of them. they may have replaced it on insurance already, but I bet they'd love the data

for total karma donate said book to charity laptop cause

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Originally Posted by Andrew Stephens
Go karma!

Offer your colleague amybe $150 for the book - then try to find th eowner using the data. If you can't well, you did your best, if you can then get hold of them. they may have replaced it on insurance already, but I bet they'd love the data

for total karma donate said book to charity laptop cause

have great next life

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He will let me try to "fix it" I will be using it for a week, if I found out something really wrong I will go to the Police, but if I just found out that it's full of crab I will try to know who the owner is. BUT I will not be as desperate to found the owner, because I like to keep it, you know... but if I not try to investigate I will be feeling bad for all my life... (because of you. before posting I never thought it maybe stolen thoug..) I need to get back my clean conscience and then keep it. Next I will sell my PowerBook Kanga g3 for I don't know $89.00 maybe? and then try to think what to do with the PowerBook Pismo that I use everyday....til now. thanx for all the caring guys, good advices are always welcome! Peace
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Oct 3, 2006, 10:38 PM
 
You know when you find something you have a duty to try and get it back to its rightful owner. Finding something doesn't mean ownership changes upon your discovery.

Don't be a tight A$$ buy something legitimate and not something "found" aka stolen!
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"WTF? That's not necessary... Of course the best thing that could happen would be to get the previous owner of the PB back his laptop... but if that's not gonna happen, what's wrong with trying to encourage a little good out of a bad situation?"

Half a right doesn't negate the wrong--if you have access to the laptop, you return it to the owner. End of story. Anything else is just an excuse someone makes themselves to feel better about aiding and abetting thievery.
     
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"BUT I will not be as desperate to found the owner, because I like to keep it, you know... but if I not try to investigate I will be feeling bad for all my life... (because of you. before posting I never thought it maybe stolen thoug..) I need to get back my clean conscience and then keep it."

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Mmm. Triple post. Tasty.
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Oct 4, 2006, 04:57 PM
 
ok, I'm using it right now, how do I know who's the owner? anybody?
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Call Apple at 1-800-APL-CARE. Apple has names and addresses connected to serial numbers of people who registered their purchase. I found a 60 gig iPod in the back seat of a NYC cab once and called apple. After I gave them the serial number they had me one the phone with the owner in under 5 seconds. Losing a laptop is so much worse than just an iPod. You have a chance to be a real saint to someone here.

In this day and age it is relatively easy to find the owner of a lost piece of electronics, especially a laptop computer that more than likely has a serial number that is attached to a name and address. And yes, not making an effort when you now know what to do is the same as stealing. No amount of time or denial should be sufficient to cleanse your conscience.
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Holy crap, if Apple or anyone else gave out my name and phone number on the basis of "I have this serial number" my legal team would be all over them.

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Note: I did not say that they gave me the name or phone number, they merely connected me to the owner. It was probably more like 10-15 seconds, and I'm sure they prefaced the connection by telling the other party that "this is Apple Computer, someone who has found an iPod registered to you would like to return it. May I connect you?"
     
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Originally Posted by dimmer
my legal team would be all over them.
You have a legal team? Sue people often?
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Oct 4, 2006, 09:22 PM
 
Maybe you could save the $300 and take some grammar lessons.
     
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Oct 5, 2006, 12:31 AM
 
Wow, I can't believe MacNN has this on the front page under the guise of a legitimate discussion on the value of a PowerBook G4

"One member looks for advice on the current value of a Titanium PowerBook and whether it is worth the quoted price"

Call Apple, say you've found a laptop. Call the airport, say you've come into possession of a laptop lost at their airport. I can't believe this is even a discussion.
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A few years ago I was visiting LA with a few friends, and we got to the airport a little too early so we decided to hit the local McDonald's before checking in. As we were returning the car to the rental place I realized that I had left my camcorder bag on the bench in the restaurant, containing my brand new $1,500 camcorder, a camera, my passport and my plane ticket. We rushed back to the restaurant, hoping noone would have noticed the bag... Unfortunately, it was gone. I thought for sure it had been "found", but I asked an employee and to my surprise she came back with my bag, intact with all its contents. Someone sure won some good karma on that day, let me tell you.

There are two ways you can find the rightful owner: one is to contact Apple and give them the serial number, the other is to break into it by booting up using a system CD or DVD and using the password reset feature, then snoop around and you're likely to find some personal information like name, address and phone number.

Think about it this way: how about if it were YOUR computer that you had lost, with your vacation videos, children pics or whatever irreplaceable stuff you have on it. Woudln't you want someone to be doing the right thing and trying to return it to you? I can't believe the lengths people will go to in order to rationalize theft. We're not talking about an umbrella, a pair of gloves or a disposable lighter here. No matter which way you look at it, whomever "found" it (assuming they didn't "find" it inside a traveler's luggage) is committing theft by not turning it in. Since it's fair to assume he does that on a regular basis, it's very likely he will get caught in one of the probes triggered by the increased number of customer complaints, and when that happens you'll be glad not to be linked to the guy in any way (for instance, by owning property he stole or having given him a check to purchase stolen goods).

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Originally Posted by Madison
Maybe you could save the $300 and take some grammar lessons.
WOW....
It's true that I don't speak or write english well... I born and raise in Puerto Rico, and never been good at english, until now, for the last 6 years I'm living in Florida, and I am trying to learn fast. I don't know why you bother with a comment like that, do it had something to do with the fact that I'm trying to know what to do jn a situation like mine? why you need to point your finger at me just for my grammar? once again I'm really sad about people like you that enjoys doing that to other instead of congratulate me for at least speak and almost write your language in less than a decade. thanx for notice my learning curve, and yes I'm still learning. do you speak or write spanish maybe? japanese? so don't be cruel on people like me just for that.

and for the Lost PB, it was empty, nothing inside, Panther was running well, but no files, somebody erase everything from it... it runs great. The guy told me that if I can't do nothing about it he will be at any pawn shop this week, so... let see what happen then... I am waiting for a Bonus to buy an iMac 24" or a Mac Pro whatever comes easy for my budget so, that PB it's not as important for me anyway, and I really don't care if it stolen or not, that's something you brought here trying to be a judge about something that happens to me, it was just a guy that was planning to sell a "dead" PB he found at an airport, if I don't buy it someone will... nothing change what it's going to happen. That's life. I will return it next week and whatever happens will stay like that. good luck for the next guy... as for my experience, the next one will be treated as a thief like I was. and I'm just a guy he wanted to sell his "lost" PB.
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From your first post:
he can't use it because it's locked... he he he, I told him, let me see it and when I start it up, it just boot up normal and the login window was waiting for the name and password to enter
From your last post:
and for the Lost PB, it was empty, nothing inside, Panther was running well, but no files, somebody erase everything from it... it runs great.
You can't even keep your story straight. Shame on you.
     
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Oct 5, 2006, 04:41 AM
 
Regardless as to wether or not this is stealing (Which it clearly is)... $300 is far too much for 0.7Ghz G4 laptop! It has to be over four years old so the battery is probably mush now...

I also think the Ti's were really ugly.

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Oct 5, 2006, 05:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by I WAS the One
I am waiting for a Bonus to buy an iMac 24" or a Mac Pro whatever comes easy for my budget so, that PB it's not as important for me anyway, and I really don't care if it stolen or not, that's something you brought here trying to be a judge about something that happens to me, it was just a guy that was planning to sell a "dead" PB he found at an airport, if I don't buy it someone will... nothing change what it's going to happen. That's life. I will return it next week and whatever happens will stay like that. good luck for the next guy... as for my experience, the next one will be treated as a thief like I was. and I'm just a guy he wanted to sell his "lost" PB.
cop out! you have the book now, call apple and at leat try to find the owner.
     
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Oct 5, 2006, 08:51 AM
 
I have a cousin who worked in Heathrow airport (London, UK). If they found anything in the airport (and if the bomb squad did not want to blow it up!) they handed it in to Lost Property and if it was not claimed within 3 months they were allowed to keep it. Maybe the same thing happened here?
     
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Originally Posted by LordJohnWhorfin
From your first post:


From your last post:


You can't even keep your story straight. Shame on you.
DUH! I was talking about what I saw when I try to start it up... that was it!

on the other post I just boot up with a Tiger disk and change the password and then describe what you read...


step by step man, you can't change the order of events, and remember I read my posts too... so get real!
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Originally Posted by Geordiekeith
I have a cousin who worked in Heathrow airport (London, UK). If they found anything in the airport (and if the bomb squad did not want to blow it up!) they handed it in to Lost Property and if it was not claimed within 3 months they were allowed to keep it. Maybe the same thing happened here?
thanx God! the first person that isn't telling me that my friends are thiefs and I'm part of it LOL! yeah, maybe that was it, as I said I don't know for sure.


And FYI I am using it right now! (again)
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You have a legal team? Sue people often?
Yes I do, and hence no I don't! A good legal team gets you out of suing people (a boring governmental process that takes monies from all involved). I had to kick Fred from the team, as he just would not play within the rules, but my patent lawyer rocks.

A quick check of UK law shows that you have to wait 18 months for the re-disposal of lost property. So you've been sold a bill of goods. Say "Hi" to Bubba from me, if your mouth isn't full already. Yes, I did send a link to your local PD: theft is theft. Citizens have to work to be citizens. I did my part.
     
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Oct 6, 2006, 07:38 PM
 
It's cool an all.. but I decided to not buy it so, I will think better next time... it was an experience chatting with you all of this. Thanx again.
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