[saosin]

Hi all, Ive been wanting a mbp for some time but am looking at macbooks now due to the horrible grainy screen seen on the current mbp's.

The one thing that worries me most is the macbooks lack of video card. Will leopard be that demanding that it require a video card? Or will the onboard graphics be enough to run leopard in the future when it releases??

Also what other uses would the graphic card have?? I mainly plan to just do normal wordprocessing and such but use photoshop ocassionally. No gaming here.

Another thing i want that the mbp only has is the matte screen but unfortunately the mbps look like crap rihgt now so im now once again lookin at macbooks.

input appreciated!

[C.A.T.S. CEO]

Yes it should work. If Apple made it so Leopard wouldn't run on there most recent machines, that would be pretty stupid.

[stefanicotine]

Yeah, Apple's pretty good with supporting old equipment. I have no idea what the integrated graphics will be capable of in Leopard. I'm guessing that, unless they add some new Core image stuff thats more demanding, your graphics will be sufficient.

I remember when I had my Mac Mini (PPC from September 2005), the integrated graphics wouldn't support the ripple effect when you dropped a widget onto your dashboard.

[volcano]

Originally Posted by saosin 

Hi all, Ive been wanting a mbp for some time but am looking at macbooks now due to the horrible grainy screen seen on the current mbp's.

That's a bit blown out of proportion. The problems aren't that widespread, and my current and last MacBook Pro had/do have flawless displays.

[monkeybrain]

Originally Posted by stefanicotine 

I remember when I had my Mac Mini (PPC from September 2005), the integrated graphics wouldn't support the ripple effect when you dropped a widget onto your dashboard.

No PPC Mac has integrated graphics, it's only possible with these Intel chips. I had one of those Mac Minis too and indeed it didn't support the ripple effect. So even though the Macbooks have integrated graphics, they are still better than the old Minis (ibooks etc.) since they do have the ripple effect.

I think the only thing you have to worry about with Leopard will be RAM. Get lots. I've got 512 mb and cope with Tiger ok, but wish I could afford a bit more. Leopard will probably work a lot with more.

There is the issue of Time Machine. Whether you want to get a big hard disk or just a big external hard disk for that is personal preference. (I probably wouldn't need it myself, I don't think I've ever needed a file after I've deleted it).

[stefanicotine]

Originally Posted by monkeybrain 

No PPC Mac has integrated graphics, it's only possible with these Intel chips. I had one of those Mac Minis too and indeed it didn't support the ripple effect. So even though the Macbooks have integrated graphics, they are still better than the old Minis (ibooks etc.) since they do have the ripple effect.

I think the only thing you have to worry about with Leopard will be RAM. Get lots. I've got 512 mb and cope with Tiger ok, but wish I could afford a bit more. Leopard will probably work a lot with more.

There is the issue of Time Machine. Whether you want to get a big hard disk or just a big external hard disk for that is personal preference. (I probably wouldn't need it myself, I don't think I've ever needed a file after I've deleted it).

You need some sort of graphics chip. Without one, you have no video at all. They may not have advertised it, but they had integrated video. I'm sure you're probably right about it not being possible with PPC. But they still had a graphics chip.

That was the first thing I tested on the MacBook, the ripple effect. I love that effect! It's probably the first thing I show people when they want to see Mac

[monkeybrain]

Oh yeah, I didn't mean they didn't have a graphics chip, I just meant it was a regular (cheap) chip, rather than being integrated.

Just found this from the Apple site, this was the card we were using: ATI Radeon 9200 with 32MB of DDR SDRAM with AGP 4X support