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Powerbook Ti G4 DVI 667 dead display and disk probs
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Mar 21, 2007, 07:35 AM
 
This is a long post- but please bear with me - its a case of multiple organ failure!
After being dropped by my dear son, my old powerbook Ti 667GHz DVI 15inch mac was seriously injured; the left display hinge broken. The loosely attached display no longer worked - it lit up uniformly accross the screen but displayed no data. Still he continued to use it quite satisfactorily with an external monitor.
I assumed the problem was probably damage to the data cable to the display and last week I picked a replacement display off ebay and left hinge which I carefully glued into the display and then swapped the old display for the new one. This now has two happy hinges, but still exhibits exactly the same problem - the display lights up but nothing appears on it. I have seen previous threads on this, so would add that there is absolutely no graphics visible, even when I shine a light through the display case, but as I said the backlight still works fine and goes brighter and dimmner when the screen brightness buttons are pressed.
Before giving up on this as being a logic board problem, has anyone any suggestions as to what else may have been damaged in the original dropping of the powerbook? Could this be a problem at the cable connectors on the logic board? There are 3 cable connectors going from the logic board to the display, the one on the right I think is the inverter, the multicable on the left data? what is the second connector on the right?

There is a second part to this posting - you may wonder why I am so keen to replace the display if the powerbook has been working fine on external monitor-- the reason is that recently it developed another fault - it would no longer recognise blank CD-Rs for burning. The drive reads CDs and DVDs fine, just won't accept blanks to burn. Exactly the same happens with a USB external CD-R drive. Also I don't seem to be able to view the hard disk in firewire target mode from my other mac. Makes me think the system is corrupted. Here's the problem. If I want to reinstall the system from my original panther installation CDs, when the computer boots up on the installer disk, the external monitor no longer works! Presumably the installer OS on the CD doesn't have the drivers for video mirroring. So I am stuck. As I can't use the powerbook displays, I can't do a clean reinstall of the system, so can't try to fix the CD burning problem. Now you see why I tried a new monitor! So any good ideas about how restore the parts of the system that might allow CD burning would be welcome.
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Mar 24, 2007, 02:34 PM
 
First the display:
Since you have external video, its unlikely to be a fault on the logic board. The other common logic fault which manifests on the screen causes the inverter to stop working, so you get no backlight.
The extra two pin (blue and white cable) connector you mention is for the sleep LED. Nothing to do with display. Its just data and backlight (inverter is in the bottom half).
It might be worth chatting up your local Apple engineer to see if you can get them to run Mac Test Pro on it and test the board. If it doesn't fail, its not necessarliy fine, but if it does at least you'll know what the problem is.

Is the display detected in the System Profile? If not, its either the display or the cable. It should report a model and make. Usually Samsung, Sharp, or LG/Philips As I recall.
You say you got a replacement display on eBay. Do you mean display cable? Or did you swap out the LCD too? If you did, it would seem to point at the logic board, but this still feels like a data cable issue. Its possible you have another bad cable or display (whichever it was you bought). I have seen data cables fall out of their sockets at the LCD end due to dropping. Not on Titaniums, but I assume whichever part you swapped you checked this out?

As for your other issues, the disc burning one sounds like a software issue that should be fixed by an archive & install, but the HD not showing up over target mode sounds like another problem. Either the HD is on its way out, or again the logic board may be faulty. Does target mode show up in Disk Utility or system profile on the host Mac? If it says Target mode under the firewire bus on system profile, the logic board is probably OK, and the HD is dying or very corrupt.
If that external burner was firewire, maybe you have blown your firewire controller (If System Profile reports no info available, its not seeing the bus at all, and its probably blown). Or was this one reading discs OK too?
     
   
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