[mduell]

Can someone with one of the new MBPs please take a screenshot of the system profiler showing which wifi card they're using?

Trying to resolve the "MBP is using Santa Rosa" vs "MBP is only using Crestline" debate.

[tavin64]

Santa Rosa is the name of the new intel motherboard chipset that supports the new 800mhz bus c2ds and X3100 graphics (if it comes with integrated graphics).

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Anything with a 965 express chipset is santa rosa whether it has X3100 graphics or nvidia or ati. Crestline refers to the code name for the X3100 graphics chipset within santa rosa. So as MBPs have dedicated graphics there is no crestline, but it is still a santa rosa motherboard. Now when apple releases the new Macbook with X3100 that will be a Santa Rosa with Crestline laptop.

What you are referring to about the wireless card is what intel calls centrino branding. For a laptop to have the centrino badge it has to have an intel motherboard, wireless card, and graphics chip. Thats why you see pc laptops with centrino badge and others with just core 2 duo badges. I dont see why apple hasnt gone with intel wireless chips as well now that they have switched but they just probably have a long contract with atheros.
TG Daily - Intel Crestline chipset will run DirectX 10

[Abbas]

So do the new MBP use the Intel WiFi chips that are part of the centrino package or the ones they've been using from before?

[tavin64]

Most likely the ones from before as they have a contract with atheros to supply the wireless chips for the macbooks, macbook pros, and imacs.

If apple decides to switch to intel wifi chips and there isnt really a reason they shouldnt, the macbook would become a centrino certified laptop because of motherboard, wireless chip, and graphics chip.

Macbook Pros come with the PM965 chipset which lacks Crestline graphics. Whenever the macbooks get updated to santa rosa it will come with the GM965 chipset which includes X3100.

[mduell]

Originally Posted by tavin64 

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Crestline is the 965 chipset family: both PM (no graphics) and GM (with graphics).
Santa Rosa is a platform in the Centrino family; it requires all 3 (Merom+Crestline+4965AGN) chips for branding.
I understand this all, perhaps better than you do.

I'm asking if Apple is using 4965AGN to determine if the people calling the new MBP "Santa Rosa" are correct or if they are misusing the term. If you can't answer that, please stop replying with more drivel.