[seebche]

hello
I dont know anything about apples system.
pls answer my questions :
1- whats the difference between power book aluminum , power book titanium , mac book , mac book pro & ibook?
2- which one of those are better . support more apps , games, better os & ...
3- can I install an apple os on my desktop pc ? I have already vista on it.
thank u

[peeb]

1. These are Apple's laptop range. The Powerbooks are old models, the aluminum is the most recent, the titanium older. They are not produced any more. The macbook is the new intel consumer line, the macbook pro is the pro model. Check Apples website for the spec differences.
2. Check Apples website.
3. Not legally.

[deeper]

Powerbooks and iBooks are no longer being made, although you can get them refurbished or used. The Macbook Pro is comes with either a 15 or 17 inch screen, and is more of a professional model. The Macbook has a 13 inch screen, making it a bit more portable. Lots of other differences... I suggest you go to the Apple website and look at the specifications.
You cannot run OS X on a PC, (generally speaking) but you can run Windows (Vista, etc.) on a Intel-based Macintosh.
If you've got an Apple store in your area, you might like to check them out in person. Good luck, and welcome to the world of the Mac.

[EndlessMac]

The others have answered your questions pretty well so I'll just add that if you are new to Apple and depending on whether you get an older Mac or a recent one you have to pay attention to the compatibility of the software you are using. As already mentioned the PowerBooks and iBooks are older Macs and are also referred to as PowerPC. When finding software for these computers you should find ones that are made for "PowerPC" and not the ones made for Intel Macs.

MacBook and MacBook Pro are Intel based Apples so you should used software made for Intel Macs. You can use software made for PowerPC but it doesn't run as efficiently on an Intel Mac. It's best to use the Intel version if there is one available.

Until everyone upgrades to the Intel Macs you'll notice that most of the popular Mac software will have both versions. Some of the less popular software only have the Intel version because they either don't have the time or resources to make both versions. Macs will have Intel chips from now on so if you want a computer that will last you into the future then get an Intel version. If you are going to be playing games then you should get a more recent computer anyway.

[Rumor]

I'd like to add that there are not multiple versions of OSX i.e. OSX Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, Ultimate etc. It will run on any of those machines. Of course, the more powerful the machine, the faster it will run.

[seebche]

thank u a lot.
so I guess better bye a macbook pro if have less than 15 inch lcd cause portability is very important to me . if not macbook.
when u was say intel base , i thought all intel software in desktop microsoft pc execute in apple . its wrong, yes?
so I need many software like nero , DVB player softs , firefox , skype , nokia & motorola phones softwares , power dvd , office , acrobat ....... that using now in my pc .
are these software have mac versions? I didnt see .
can I find apple softwares in this site?
where can i fine?
thx

[peeb]

I think your questions are a little beyond the scope of this thread - where do you live? A trip to an Apple store might be a really good idea. Windows software does not automatically run on Macs, although Apple versions of the programs you mention exist. You can run windows on Intel Macs, but it requires additional settup.

[seebche]

u r so quick
so I can install for example xp or vista on macbook until find my desire mac software. or I can have both microsoft and apple os . it is good.
where can I find mac software in net not in store?
what did u mean u need additional setup?

[seebche]

here is not even apples notebook . so as u see I must find the softwares in net.

[peeb]

You can install xp (I'm not sure vista is fully supported yet). There are two ways to do it - dual booting, where you choose, on startup, which os you want. This has the advantage that it is fast, but you have to restart to switch os. The other way is to use Parallels to run a copy of windows alongside OS X - this is a bit slower, but you have both at the same time. You have to set this up yourself - the machine does not come with this. You need a copy of windows, and a copy of Parallels.

[peeb]

Originally Posted by seebche 

here is not even apples notebook . so as u see I must find the softwares in net.

Not sure I know what you mean.

[Sherman Homan]

so I need many software like nero , DVB player softs , firefox , skype , nokia & motorola phones softwares , power dvd , office , acrobat ....... that using now in my pc .

PC Software and Mac software
Nero = Mac OS X has many built in burning features, Toast
Firefox = Firefox
Skype = Skype
Office = Office
Acrobat = Acrobat
Nokia, motorola, Treo, etc, just go to their web site and download the appropriate software.
I have no idea what you mean by power DVD or DVB player softs.
What is your native language?

[seebche]

Oh god . this site is good. u are so active .
thank u. sorry about my english.
I decided a macbook (13 inch) but macbook pro's have better graphic and firewire speed and more.
this model MB063LL/A for example has this specifications :
* 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 4 MB shared L2 Cache
* 1 GB (two SO-DIMM) 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300); 160 GB 5400 rpm Serial ATA hard drive; 8x Super Drive
* One FireWire 400, two USB 2.0 ports, Mini-DVI port with support for DVI, VGA, S-video, and composite video output (requires adapters, sold separately)
* Built-in 10/100/1000BASE-T (Gigabit); built-in 54 Mbps AirPort Extreme (based on 802.11n draft specifications); built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
* 13.3-inch (diagonal) glossy TFT widescreen display, 1280 x 800 resolution
with 1400$.
whats your opinion?
dear peeb i mean i have to order .
can u please tell me mac os generations ( like ME XP vista in microsoft )?

[EndlessMac]

Originally Posted by seebche 

when u was say intel base , i thought all intel software in desktop microsoft pc execute in apple . its wrong, yes?

You can't use PC software on Macs. Sorry about confusing you. Intel Macs are not PC compatible. They are just Macs with Intel chips built inside but they are not PCs. You have to find software that is made for Intel Macs for best performance if you are getting a MacBook or MacBook Pro. You might want to read Apple's help site to help you switch from Windows to Mac.

Originally Posted by seebche 

can I find apple softwares in this site?
where can i fine?
thx

If you don't have places near you that sell Apple software then you can always buy them off the internet from places like Amazon.

[EndlessMac]

Originally Posted by seebche 

I decided a macbook (13 inch) but macbook pro's have better graphic and firewire speed and more.

whats your opinion?

It just depends on what you do most of the time on your computer. MacBooks are nice but if you play a lot of video games then you might want to get a MacBook Pro. If you only play games occasionally then a MacBook might be good enough for you. What do you usually do on the computer?

Originally Posted by seebche 

can u please tell me mac os generations ( like ME XP vista in microsoft )?

They go by numbers and names. For example 10.2, 10.3, 10.4 which are Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger. The one that is going to come out soon is 10.5 Leopard. The most current is 10.4.10 Tiger.

[peeb]

But don't worry about the versions - there is only one current version - 10.4 (Tiger). 10.5 (Leopard) comes out in the fall.

[Big Mac]

Originally Posted by EndlessMac 

You can't use PC software on Macs. Sorry about confusing you. Intel Macs are not PC compatible. They are just Macs with Intel chips built inside but they are not PCs. You have to find software that is made for Intel Macs for best performance if you are getting a MacBook or MacBook Pro. You might want to read Apple's help site to help you switch from Windows to Mac.

Why didn't you mention Boot Camp or Parallels? Apple's current line of computers are PCs. They just run a different OS out of the box.

[seebche]

thank u. hey where r u from? uk?
I wanna play game too but dont like 15.4 inch LCD but I think must buy pro.
for dual booting I should install mac os first then xp ?

your forum have 3 prob : 1-I cant find whose watching this topic or any. 2-there is no thank botton 3- no new posts indicates on top of page.
fix them.
ok i must go. I will come back tomorrow . (here is late now)
bye

[peeb]

Originally Posted by Big Mac 

Why didn't you mention Boot Camp or Parallels?

Because it was mentioned above already?

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by seebche 

thank u. hey where r u from? uk?
I wanna play game too but dont like 15.4 inch LCD but I think must buy pro.
for dual booting I should install mac os first then xp ?

For Dual Booting, yes, you'll want to install Mac OS X first. There is a program you will need to download called Boot Camp. This will help you set up your computer for booting either OS X or Windows XP.

As others have mentioned, you also might want to check out Parallels. Parallels allows you to run Mac OS X and Windows XP simultaneously.

[seebche]

good morning
thx. I read bootcamp . I understood every thing about it .
it says that can support vista too.
ok- lets go see other forums and topics here.

[seebche]

here is a pic . I wish u enjoy it .

[EndlessMac]

Originally Posted by seebche 

here is a pic . I wish u enjoy it .

Interesting picture. Macs have definitely come along way.

[seebche]

your well come. u didnt say where r u guys from ?
how much does a macbook pro 15" with 2.1 core2due and 1 GB ram & 160GB hdd cost in your country?

[tintin220]

seebche, those Macbook Pros are no longer available for sale. The latest version for me here in the States is 1999USD, with similar (but slightly better specs) than what you have listed; however, if you have an educational discount (as a college student), you can get another 200USD+ discounted from the price.

Of course, places such as Macmall.com sell the older model you have listed at much lower prices (it is 1549USD there, but note that that model is not the current one). Or, alternatively, you can buy a refurbished model from Apple itself for a modest discount.

-tinman

[seebche]

ok. thank u anyway . I think i got all my answers in this topic.
thank u every body.

[silverflyer]

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