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Sep 17, 2007, 08:58 AM
 
I have the old school original stock 1.83 ghz Core Duo MB with 512mb ram. I have a 60 gig HD.

Can someone link me DIRECTLY to some ram that will work with my MB. Will 1 gig of ram make a difference in my life? I certainly hope so, because on the Windows side of things I don't have many problems, but under OSX, it just feels like a turtle.

If you could as well link me to a new HD it would be appreciated.
     
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Sep 17, 2007, 09:12 AM
 
You will see an improvement with 1 GB RAM as opposed to 512 MB. Below is a link to RAM using Crucial's lookup tool. I do not vouch for its accuracy.

Computer memory upgrades for Apple MacBook 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo (13-inch White) Laptop/Notebook from Crucial.com
     
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Sep 17, 2007, 09:14 AM
 
Personally I use two 1GB sticks of Crucial RAM.

Step 1. Google "Crucial" (as I don't know which country you want),
Step 2. Select the Manufacturer from the first drop-down menu (Apple),
Step 3. Select the Product from the second drop-down menu (MacBook),
Step 4. Select the Model from the third drop-down menu (MacBook 1.8ghz Core Duo),
Step 5. Click "Find it" and select which upgrade you want.

Simple really, you can find a guide on how to install the RAM when it arrives by Googling too, or here you go...

How to install MacBook memory
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Sep 17, 2007, 09:58 AM
 
Thanks. I wasn't being lazy by asking for links. It's just I know nothing about the type of ram or HD the MB needs and figured plenty of you guys do. Thanks!
     
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Sep 17, 2007, 10:01 AM
 
I got 2 GB for $75 shipped from NewEgg.com -- stuff works great.
     
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Sep 17, 2007, 10:27 AM
 
Corsair is also another good RAM making company, in case you find a good deal on Corsair RAM.
     
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Sep 17, 2007, 10:45 AM
 
It's a huge mistake of Apple to ship Macs with 512mb. A lot of people I know have bought mbs or iMacs and think they suck in terms of speed. I've helped 5 switchers this year buy RAM to save their Macs from being replaced for speedier machines. I think the days of ordinary people ever upgrading their computers is over.
     
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Sep 17, 2007, 11:48 AM
 
Originally Posted by CheesePuff View Post
I got 2 GB for $75 shipped from NewEgg.com -- stuff works great.
What brand?
     
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Sep 17, 2007, 02:03 PM
 
It doesn't really matter about the brand -- they're all the same type in the end. Just some users argue that they're not the same quality in the end.
     
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Sep 17, 2007, 05:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by CheesePuff View Post
It doesn't really matter about the brand -- they're all the same type in the end. Just some users argue that they're not the same quality in the end.
Not quiet. The RAM is manufactured at different quality levels, and higher quality RAM lasts longer and has fewer problems.

Corsair is a good brand, they do not manufacture themselves but the RAM they buy is higher quality than say, PNY or something.
     
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Sep 17, 2007, 08:15 PM
 
Hey, how full is your hard drive Geofries? If it is near full, with less than 10 GB to spare, that could easily be the source of the slow down.
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Sep 18, 2007, 11:06 AM
 
Originally Posted by tinkered View Post
Hey, how full is your hard drive Geofries? If it is near full, with less than 10 GB to spare, that could easily be the source of the slow down.
Only if he is *that* low on RAM that his machine is swapping *that* much, which would be absolutely crazy, and probably not even remotely possible.
     
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Sep 19, 2007, 07:49 AM
 
I just shipped my 2.0 MB back to Apple and before I shipped it back I took my 1 gig of Ram out and put the stock 512 in. I couldn't believe the difference in speed. I don't know why Apple shipped these in the first place with 512 because it is so inadequate.

Maybe Apple is in cahoots with the Ram suppliers because they know everyone will need to upgrade ;-)
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Sep 19, 2007, 10:22 AM
 
The trouble is a lot of noobs don't even know they should upgrade - they think the computer is just slow.
     
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Sep 19, 2007, 11:22 AM
 
Originally Posted by peeb View Post
It's a huge mistake of Apple to ship Macs with 512mb. A lot of people I know have bought mbs or iMacs and think they suck in terms of speed. I've helped 5 switchers this year buy RAM to save their Macs from being replaced for speedier machines. I think the days of ordinary people ever upgrading their computers is over.
That's why they don't anymore. Luckily, Leopard runs smoother than Tiger with 1 Gb for some reason.
     
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Sep 21, 2007, 12:08 AM
 
Just wondering, but do you suppose that Apple ships its machines with minimal RAM because end users can buy RAM cheaper elsewhere? Adding RAM BTO through the Apple Store is always crazy expensive, so they make it reasonably easy to add and let you decide when to spend the dough.

The Good news is that with the new iMacs, they put the bundled RAM in one slot, so you can upgrade without tossing a chip! Finally!
     
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Sep 21, 2007, 09:48 AM
 
Originally Posted by AC Rempt View Post
Just wondering, but do you suppose that Apple ships its machines with minimal RAM because end users can buy RAM cheaper elsewhere?
I doubt it. They likely do it because the prices Apple charges for RAM pre-installed carries a high profit margin for them. Their pricing reflects the convenience of them adding it and delivering it to you this way.
     
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Sep 21, 2007, 10:04 AM
 
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I doubt it. They likely do it because the prices Apple charges for RAM pre-installed carries a high profit margin for them. Their pricing reflects the convenience of them adding it and delivering it to you this way.

This is, IMHO, yet another bizarre example of "WTF are you trying to do, Apple?" Apple spends the effort in packing up their products in pretty boxes and providing that breathtaking box-opening experience that is so satisfying to many (in a rather weird sort of way, when you think about it), yet they don't seem concerned with the customer experience once the machine is booted up?

They ought to ship their Macs with the actual amount of RAM needed for them to run well, and possibly provide a BTO for people to *downgrade* their RAM if they are really trying to attract super price conscious buyers. Moreover, making such a hefty profit on selling RAM is just not a good area to have a high profit margin, IMHO... A lot of other vendors do this, but this doesn't make it cool.

It's also annoying that Apple's parts are ridiculously overpriced.
     
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Sep 21, 2007, 10:54 AM
 
Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
That's why they don't anymore. Luckily, Leopard runs smoother than Tiger with 1 Gb for some reason.
At last - thank goodness.
     
   
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