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Will the expected new cpu in the MBP require different ram?
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Jan 17, 2008, 10:39 PM
 
In case the complete subject title didn’t fit, here’s the question.
Will the expected new cpu in the MBP require different ram?
     
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Jan 18, 2008, 03:34 AM
 
No.

The new CPU (Penryn) runs on the same Crestline chipset as the current Merom CPU.

When Apple switches from Crestline to Cantiga (release will be in May) chipsets we'll go to 800 MHz DDR2 or possibly even DDR3.
     
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Jan 18, 2008, 10:45 AM
 
Thanks simon,
I was wondering that if different ram was required, then we might not be able to max out so cheaply.
     
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Jan 19, 2008, 06:35 PM
 
If the update comes this month or next, it should be the same RAM.

If the update comes in May or so, probably new memory (800Mhz DDR3).
     
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Jan 19, 2008, 07:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by mduell View Post

If the update comes in May or so, probably new memory (800Mhz DDR3).

Would that be with the old cpu or the new?
     
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Jan 19, 2008, 07:02 PM
 
Originally Posted by imdipped View Post
Would that be with the old cpu or the new?
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Jan 19, 2008, 07:49 PM
 
In that case I'm disappointed that Apple made the MBa out of aluminum. I was expecting a new MBP design to go along with the Cantiga and hoping it would be carbon fibre.

Am I wrong in thinking:
a) Wi-Fi reception would be better
b) light weight
c) better dent protection
d) color?

I don't expect it to run cooler with the new chip because I think it will be made thinner. (I wonder if a thicker MBa would be the new style)? Apple really should try to keep the heat down instead of trying to see how thin they can go.

I would also like to see an eSATA port, FW 800, Ethernet port, Express Card slot, full size DVI, (no dongles needed for anything) and make the HD and battery easily replaceable like in the MB. In a year or two we may want to replace the HD with an SSD or swap between SSD's. Also, no soldered on total ram.

These are just my thoughts. If this was to be debated, it probably should be in another thread.
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Jan 19, 2008, 10:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by imdipped View Post
In that case I'm disappointed that Apple made the MBa out of aluminum. I was expecting a new MBP design to go along with the Cantiga and hoping it would be carbon fibre.

Am I wrong in thinking:
a) Wi-Fi reception would be better
b) light weight
c) better dent protection
d) color?

I don't expect it to run cooler with the new chip because I think it will be made thinner. (I wonder if a thicker MBa would be the new style)? Apple really should try to keep the heat down instead of trying to see how thin they can go.

I would also like to see an eSATA port, FW 800, Ethernet port, Express Card slot, full size DVI, (no dongles needed for anything) and make the HD and battery easily replaceable like in the MB. In a year or two we may want to replace the HD with an SSD or swap between SSD's. Also, no soldered on total ram.

These are just my thoughts. If this was to be debated, it probably should be in another thread.
Are you talking about the MBA or the MBP? I don't think Apple would add a SSD option to the MBP, maybe the MB.
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Jan 20, 2008, 02:32 AM
 
C.A.T.S imdipped was talking about the MBP.

Those look like some nice specs, except the SSD as the price to gb is to high at the moment. Maybe in the future SSD's will come down. Very cool tech though.


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Jan 20, 2008, 12:17 PM
 
Originally Posted by imdipped View Post
In that case I'm disappointed that Apple made the MBa out of aluminum. I was expecting a new MBP design to go along with the Cantiga and hoping it would be carbon fibre.

Am I wrong in thinking:
a) Wi-Fi reception would be better
b) light weight
c) better dent protection
WiFi reception might well be a bit better and probably lighter weight. However for durability Al rocks; aluminum is ductile and will easily dent but typically that is irrelevant cosmetic damage. Carbon fiber is very challenging for a shape like a laptop (as opposed to for instance a tube) and will often fail catastrophically rather than simply dent when dinged hard on a corner. Al really is a state of the art material for the application. Personally I do not want to see beautifully evolved designs like MPs and MBPs be changed just for the sake of changing them.

That said, new plastics tech, including carbon fiber evolution, may well make for a way cool MBP down the road.

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Jan 20, 2008, 12:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO View Post
I don't think Apple would add a SSD option to the MBP, maybe the MB.
IMO it is very logical to add SSD options to MBPs, especially as prices continue to fall and sizes continue to increase. I would even think that SSD as a second drive should show up soon, at least in the 17" MBPs. Graphics and photog folks would love having a second solid state drive on board if the price can come down a bit. Price is definitely key, however.

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