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Nov 18, 2008, 02:54 PM
 
I went to watch Iron Man purchased from the iTunes store on a projector linked to my MBP via the mini display > VGA adapter and it would not work. Perhaps I should have stuck with ripping DVDs instead...
     
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Nov 18, 2008, 03:27 PM
 
Amusing that this post would show up on the just after Ars has a widely-linked story on this exact "feature", listing Iron Man as one of the movies that it affects.
     
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Nov 21, 2008, 01:38 AM
 
this stuff is crazy and very 'draconian'. So i purchase a DRM-ed movie..... and i can only watch it on screen(s) authorized by the reseller ? Thats absolutely ludicrous and unfair to consumers. Whats next ? You cant watch these movies through your iPod on any TV ? or inorder to watch purchased movies off AppleTV you need to have a "compatible" TV ?

I was planning on migrating from purchasing DVDs to iTunes movie purchases, but now i will be sticking to DVDs. Price, flexibility, size, quality and reusability constraints all taken into account DVDs are still the top imo. And once purchased, it's not upto an organization to decide(dictate) under what conditions i can use the product.

I'm very disappointed with Apple in this regard. Not informing consumers about this is just as good as lying to them about the functionality of this product&service.

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PS>> The balance of 'power' has shifted unfairly favor of the corporations, and there will be a financial backlash for the companies involved. At an economic junction where companies need to be more sensitive about the wants/needs of consumers, this is going in the totally opposite direction. Whats worse is that lack of information is what Apple is apparently trying to use to mitigate this issue. I surely hope that more news sites and media outlets bring this issue up to warn would be customers.
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Nov 21, 2008, 02:13 AM
 
Originally Posted by P View Post
Amusing that this post would show up on the just after Ars has a widely-linked story on this exact "feature", listing Iron Man as one of the movies that it affects.
I had the same thought.

Be that as it may, this HDCP nonsense has now finally reached Apple. I think we should indicate they made the wrong call on this one by simply not purchasing any such content. It's outright ridiculous that honest customers are being put at a disadvantage compared to pirates. So yes, I will publicly admit it right here and now, I will pirate such material instead.
     
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Nov 21, 2008, 03:37 AM
 
I'll buy DVDs instead. CSS is cracked enough that I feel that it's safe to buy them.

(OK, so Apple doesn't sell videos here, but there are similar services and I'm boycotting them)
     
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Nov 21, 2008, 03:59 AM
 
I stopped buying DVDs when I noticed that DVDs I had legally acquired abroad would no longer work with my region-locked DVD drive at home. Another situation were the legal buyer was put at a disadvantage compared to pirates.

Well thanks but no thanks. I'll happily d/l these movies DRM-free. If the studios don't want my money, so be it.
     
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Nov 21, 2008, 05:34 AM
 
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It's outright ridiculous that honest customers are being put at a disadvantage compared to pirates. So yes, I will publicly admit it right here and now, I will pirate such material instead.
Exactly my thoughts. Although I am not affected at all, I think the movie studios, or whoever are involved, are digging their own grave with crap like that. It takes only a sufficient number of potential customers turning to pirating than buying the content. Which will happen I want to believe sooner or later.
     
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Nov 21, 2008, 06:32 AM
 
Its funny that region free DVD players are being sold legally across Asia but not in the Americas. ill stick to one of theose and legally purchased DVDs. i hate region codes and DRM.
     
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Nov 21, 2008, 08:56 AM
 
Oh yeah, I also have a regionfree DVD. It's also one of the reasons that I don't own a Bluray yet - I need it to be regionfree.
     
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Nov 26, 2008, 02:47 AM
 
So apparently Apple has issued an update to QuickTime so that SD content will now play correctly on external displays connected to the new MB(P)s.



The update is only available on the new portable Macs.

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/11/25/apple...-7-5-7-update/
http://www.9to5mac.com/quicktime-update
http://www.macrumors.com/2008/11/25/...tion-playback/
     
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Nov 26, 2008, 10:20 AM
 
Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a View Post
Its funny that region free DVD players are being sold legally across Asia but not in the Americas. ill stick to one of theose and legally purchased DVDs. i hate region codes and DRM.
Huh ? Of course you can buy region-free DVD players in the US.

E.g. a Philips player I purchased at Wal-Mart could be "region-freed" by entering a code found by googling.

My current player (Oppo) was set to region free with a simple code found on the internet as well.
It's not rocket science at all.

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Nov 26, 2008, 10:43 AM
 
Region-free players are not illegal, but they violate the CSS license. Making a player that is unlockable is not technically a violation of the license, but the DVD Forum has been cracking down on that as well recently, trying to get that to stop.
     
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Nov 27, 2008, 12:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by P View Post
Region-free players are not illegal, but they violate the CSS license. Making a player that is unlockable is not technically a violation of the license, but the DVD Forum has been cracking down on that as well recently, trying to get that to stop.
Pff, I don't think that will happen

Just wait till BlueRay players are cheap enough and you'll get unlockable ones as well.

First the cheap ones, later even good ones.

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