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Chinasaur · Sep 2, 2004, 05:29 PM

http://free-dc.org/forum/showthread....;threadid=7442

reader50 · Sep 2, 2004, 06:21 PM

Anyone interested in Distributed Folding should follow the link. The short version is that dFold will be turned off at the 10 billion mark on the current protein, or October 1, 2004 - whichever comes last. They want to spend time looking over the current results and tweaking their code against the CASP results.

Sounds like the budget came up a little short, and the analysis was more important. Apparently, they plan to be back, but did not give a timeline.

mikkyo · Sep 2, 2004, 06:35 PM

Come Oct 1 I hope all our dfold folks come to Boinc.
One project going down will help us tighten our focus as a team, however other teams will do the same.
I have a feeling Boinc is going to get super competitive real soon.
At least with Boinc you can cruch for any 1 of the 3 current projects and crunch on the others if a server or the project goes down(or away).

Shaktai · Sep 2, 2004, 11:01 PM

Predictor@Home is also a protein prediction project like dFold (but running on BOINC), and serves a similar scientific purpose as well as participating in CASP. Great project team too. Highly recommended for the dFold team. But then there is also SETI & Climate Prediction with several others in development. Lots of opportunity for lots of fun.

reader50 · Sep 3, 2004, 12:21 AM

The news has been posted on the Team site.

wulf · Sep 3, 2004, 12:01 PM

Seems I'm going to have to find another project

Any reason why not Folding@Home?

I thought that's where a lot of the serious team members were crunching now..?

reader50 · Sep 3, 2004, 02:19 PM

Considering your sig, you might be interested in the Monkey Shakespeare Simulator project.

fillmeup · Sep 3, 2004, 04:26 PM

I thought Predictor@Home was still in Alpha.

"Predictor@home is in alpha-test phase. Please consider that we are still fixing minor (and sometimes major) problems and therefore some results might be deleted and some credits reset at any time."

Anybody heard when they are going public?

mikkyo · Sep 3, 2004, 05:20 PM

I would call all boinc based projects in Alpha, or maybe random states of behavior phase.
At least you can crunch for all 3 without doing anything other than setting it up once.

Shaktai · Sep 3, 2004, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by fillmeup:
I thought Predictor@Home was still in Alpha.

"Predictor@home is in alpha-test phase. Please consider that we are still fixing minor (and sometimes major) problems and therefore some results might be deleted and some credits reset at any time."

Anybody heard when they are going public?

Predictor has always been public. New account activation was temporarily turned off due to server volume issues, but with the new hardware and the move to BOINC 4.x, they will reopen account activations. The announcement was to let participants know that they were still in alpha level development stages, and to expect there would be outages or a risk of credits being lost sometimes. However they are doing real science, and participants are getting real credits. They have succesfully avoided any stats resets. With CASP completed and the move to improved hardware and BOINC 4.x, they will just pick up where they left off.

Consider them public again upon reactivation following the conversion and upgrades

Shaktai · Sep 3, 2004, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by wulf:
Any reason why not Folding@Home?

I thought that's where a lot of the serious team members were crunching now..?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Folding@Home. It is another great project, and will be around for awhile. Any team will be grateful for whatever power you bring to the game.

Our best opportunity for a run for a top spot is currently Predictor, but the Folding team can always use more help. You can't go wrong.

fillmeup · Sep 4, 2004, 02:42 AM

A quote from the Folding@Home support forum:

"Vijay Pande has said before - FAH will not go over to BOINC only, but if the time is right, the FAH BOINC client will be an addition to current FAH COSM client.
Reason: Current FAH COSM client is stable, but BOINC itself (even without FAH on it) has to prove itself."

I would say that it's just a matter of time.

fillmeup · Sep 4, 2004, 02:48 AM

I was a BOINC beta test participant and am tired of starting back at square one. Don't get me wrong, we knew it would happen. Just don't want to do it again.

If Shaktai says no reset, then that's good enough for me!

As soon as they go 4.x.

wulf · Sep 4, 2004, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by reader50:
Considering your sig, you might be interested in the Monkey Shakespeare Simulator project.

Excellent.

Not quite what I had in mind, but I might keep it open on the work G5, just to see how far it gets

[APi]TheMan · Sep 4, 2004, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by wulf:
Seems I'm going to have to find another project

Any reason why not Folding@Home?

I thought that's where a lot of the serious team members were crunching now..?

I'd like to think that I'm serious. Yeah, I crunch folding@home... I couldn't tell you why I like it, but I've got too much invested into folding@home now to switch to anything else. I suppose that any project that gets units for Team MacNN is a good choice.

I think dfold shutting down will also provide a good opportunity for those members to join other projects where we need it.

The Raven · Sep 9, 2004, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by reader50:
Anyone interested in Distributed Folding should follow the link. The short version is that dFold will be turned off at the 10 billion mark on the current protein, or October 1, 2004 - whichever comes last. They want to spend time looking over the current results and tweaking their code against the CASP results.

Sounds like the budget came up a little short, and the analysis was more important. Apparently, they plan to be back, but did not give a timeline.

Welnic,
Does this mean you will have your work boxes fold for Team MacNN F@H

Welnic · Sep 9, 2004, 09:48 PM

Actually, I'm thinking of doing something with one or more of the BOINC projects. I've been doing some Climate Prediction, and I'll probably look at Predictor once that is open for signups again. I'm doing that with Free-DC at the moment, and I'll probably stay there. I like the fact that boinc has a built in service installer for Windows, since I don't really want to learn how to install f@h as a service using RegEdit. There are just some things I would rather not know how to do.

reader50 · Sep 10, 2004, 12:55 AM

Hmm, we need to increase our fringe benefits again. The traditional <s>bribes</s> <i>signing bonuses</i> are money, women, and alcohol. Good thing we don't have any of those to offer.

OneMacGuy · Sep 10, 2004, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by Welnic:
I like the fact that boinc has a built in service installer for Windows, since I don't really want to learn how to install f@h as a service using RegEdit. There are just some things I would rather not know how to do.

The new version of the folding@home client also has a service installer that works very well, on Windoze. They have not updated the Mac client to version 5 yet.