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Scotttheking · Feb 25, 2002, 11:19 AM

Currently in ubero we are the #1 daily team, and are on track to become number one in about 6 months.
I'd like to see that change to a much smaller number

Here's what I'd like to see.
Everyone on rc5 who can, move over to ubero. The team will be fine without you guys for what will be at most, a few weeks, since a bit of the team cannot just switch, and those will hold down the fort.
If maybe 1/4 of the SETI people switched over for a week or two, we wouldn't have a significant loss in seti.

With all this added power, we should be able to shoot by free-dc in the next week or two, and ars a few weeks after that.

Post here if you've moved over, how long you are willing to run on ubero before you go back to the previous project, and what you are bringing over.

Lets blast past free-dc and ars so fast they don't know what hit them, and fast enough that they can't respond in time.

Install instructions: We don't have all the tweaks in the web page yet, but we'll try getting those soon. Here's the install page. http://team.macnn.com/ubero/installx.phtml

--Scott

gumby5647 · Feb 25, 2002, 11:28 AM

all better...

[ 02-25-2002: Message edited by: gumby5647 ]

Scotttheking · Feb 25, 2002, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by gumby5647:
whats up with the signiture pics.

i put

and nothing shows up. im confused.
the link works, but wheres the pic?

[ 02-25-2002: Message edited by: gumby5647 ]

Um, wrong thread

gumby5647 · Feb 25, 2002, 11:43 AM

hey, btw, im back lol....

cdhostage · Feb 25, 2002, 03:01 PM

Kill kill kill!

I wish I had a new iMac instead of my old iMac. Fasrte at Ubero.

Grozni Majmun · Feb 25, 2002, 04:29 PM

Aye, captain. I have joined Ubero with my iBook 600. I will probably go back to rc5 in a few weeks. Question: the Ubero installation page on the team site refers to an FAQ, which would explain how to allocate RAM and hard disk space. Where do I find that?

reader50 · Feb 25, 2002, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Grozni Majmun:
... Question: the Ubero installation page on the team site refers to an FAQ, which would explain how to allocate RAM and hard disk space. Where do I find that?

There is none. The install page was written by doggkruse, then edited by me before it went up. I believe doggkruse planned to write a FAQ, and included a reference to it.

I will eventually write the missing pages, so we will someday have that FAQ.

mindwaves · Feb 26, 2002, 04:22 PM

Yikes, Ars is crunching fast now. More power now.....

Earth Mk. II · Feb 26, 2002, 06:43 PM

well, I think I figured it out... I should be doing �bero now.

Feb 27, 2002, 09:48 AM

outproducing ars by 1200 and dc by 1700........lets go ladies

doggkruse · Feb 27, 2002, 10:37 AM

We seem to be way ahead in the morning, but by the end of the day..... not so good
Geoff

alphamatrix · Feb 27, 2002, 10:29 PM

I just signed up my 500Mhz G3 iMac, it runs 24/7 and was doing RC5 for MacNN

Scotttheking · Feb 27, 2002, 11:20 PM

DSL line installs tomorrow.
That means I can put 2 systems back on it full time.
That should get me up to about 800/day

Shaktai · Feb 28, 2002, 12:05 AM

Okay, I just joined the ubero team to help with the run and brought my 800mhz G4 tower on line. Thought I would give it a try. If this works out, I can bring my iBook 600 online at least part of the time as well. Was working RC-5 for a long time (with a different team), but decided to give something else a try.

Been reading a lot about Ubero stalling. Is this a common problem? Haven't yet made sense of all the scripts. Been using Macs since 86, but am not to familiar with scripts or command lines. It would be great if someone could put together some kind of novices guide, and explain some of this in plain English. Some of us "old timers" are feeling a little lost with all the techno talk.

- Br. David (brdavid on the team list)

Scotttheking · Feb 28, 2002, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Shaktai:
Okay, I just joined the ubero team to help with the run and brought my 800mhz G4 tower on line. Thought I would give it a try. If this works out, I can bring my iBook 600 online at least part of the time as well. Was working RC-5 for a long time (with a different team), but decided to give something else a try.

Been reading a lot about Ubero stalling. Is this a common problem? Haven't yet made sense of all the scripts. Been using Macs since 86, but am not to familiar with scripts or command lines. It would be great if someone could put together some kind of novices guide, and explain some of this in plain English. Some of us "old timers" are feeling a little lost with all the techno talk.

- Br. David (brdavid on the team list)

We are working on a config app that will offer some simple GUI questions, and will configure and install the shell script for you.
Hopefully it will be done soon. Ubero functionality isn't ready yet. Don't worry about the scripts for now.
The client doesn't freeze that often.

Shaktai · Feb 28, 2002, 01:03 PM

We are working on a config app that will offer some simple GUI questions, and will configure and install the shell script for you.
Hopefully it will be done soon. Ubero functionality isn't ready yet. Don't worry about the scripts for now.
The client doesn't freeze that often.

Thanks! So far the Gui client seems to be running fine. On a side note, initially my 600mhz iBook seemed to be running substantially slower than my 800mhz Power Mac. I then updated the Java on it, and it now looks like it has seen a little performance increase with the latest Java version, if that helps anyone.

Going to try the beta config client again on one of the machines, now that I understand a little about what to expect.

reader50 · Mar 2, 2002, 11:48 PM

At current (today) rates, we will pass FreeDC in 10 days.

Ars is somewhat further away at 50+ days.

Our ranks projections will continue to lag somewhat, they use a 7-day average. That is very good for daily spikes, but has problems with curves. Our production is on an upward curve, while FreeDC seems to be collapsing on a downward curve of their own. Ars is fairly stable lately.

Anyway, the intercept times will remain better than the Ranks page predicts, so long as our production continues to increase. As of this post, we are doing over 5x FreeDC's rate, and just under 2x Ars's rate.

Definitely the way to go to #1.

reader50 · Mar 3, 2002, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by ColinT in a FreeDC Forum thread:
I'm away for a bit, but will return to Ubero soon.

ColinT is the founder of the FreeDC Ubero team, and he is their top gun. While he is away, we should be kind and understanding, and slack off on Ubero ... yeah, right.

At current stats, we are outcrunching them by 7 to 1, the best ratio so far. Intercept is now 8 days.

[ 03-03-2002: Message edited by: reader50 ]

cdhostage · Mar 4, 2002, 09:14 PM

Kill kill kill!

Scotttheking · Mar 5, 2002, 02:40 AM

http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenT...p;m=1040904393

Ars sees us.

kkneisley · Mar 5, 2002, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by reader50:
ColinT is the founder of the FreeDC Ubero team, and he is their top gun. While he is away, we should be kind and understanding, and slack off on Ubero ... yeah, right.

So is this why you still haven't turned in any WUs??

Bockie · Mar 5, 2002, 08:52 AM

I've added two clients to my DP800...I'll run Ubero at night and RC5 during the day. That way I still keep crunching at a respectable rate for "my team".

I've joined Team MacNN with my 101 units from last night...Hmmm...101 units in 7 hours...14.4 units per hour! Woohoo!

reader50 · Mar 5, 2002, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by kkneisley:
So is this why you still haven't turned in any WUs??

56k ... no buffering yet ... 56k.

Mar 5, 2002, 08:44 PM

I just signed up, pretty new to distributed computing, though I read about a page that describes how to run ubero in a terminal and logged out.....any hints/tips? thanks in advance.[/LIST]

alphamatrix · Mar 5, 2002, 09:53 PM

i found this:

If you launch Ubero this way it goes a lot faster
go to the terminal and type
cd /Applications/Ubero
java -Xms300m -Xmx300m -XX:NewSize=100m -XX:MaxNewSize=100m -cp Agent.jar ubero.agent.Agent -text

this will improve your performance around 50% over the normal text mode assuming you have enough memory. I'm not sure exactly what it does but I know it is memory related. I am running on an iMac 333 with 512 MB and complete a unit around every 12 minutes, down from 24 min. you can adjust the values to suit your needs but the small value has to be around 1/3 of the big value. You don't want the values too big because the system will start using virtual memory, slowing down the system. You can tell this by typing top -d and pageins should be 0.

It works fine for me in the terminal.

Grozni Majmun · Mar 6, 2002, 01:04 AM

If you want it to keep running when you log out (this is faster), then you need to add "nohup" before "java". When you quit the terminal, it will warn you that the java process will be terminated. Don't worry, it won't.

Try this:
cd /Applications/Ubero
nohup java -Xms300m -Xmx300m -XX:NewSize=100m -XX:MaxNewSize=100m -cp Agent.jar ubero.agent.Agent -text

[ 03-06-2002: Message edited by: Grozni Majmun ]

Mar 6, 2002, 02:20 PM

team picard lost a heavy hitter, who can get him to join us?

reader50 · Mar 6, 2002, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by <wangdoodle>:
team picard lost a heavy hitter, who can get him to join us?

This person " jpb1" joined the 3D Headquarters team. Both his account, and the one other on that team, appear to be inactive.

Bockie · Mar 6, 2002, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Grozni Majmun:
If you want it to keep running when you log out (this is faster), then you need to add "nohup" before "java". When you quit the terminal, it will warn you that the java process will be terminated. Don't worry, it won't.

[ 03-06-2002: Message edited by: Grozni Majmun ]

Are you sure it won't quit? I tried that and when I quit the terminal windows (two clients)...the JAVA listing in my TOP window disappears.

Scotttheking · Mar 6, 2002, 03:37 PM

Heh, folding was running on one of my boxes.
I was wondering why it was so slow.
My production should now increase by at least 100 assignments per day

I'd recommend that people run 2 agents per processor on their computers, if they have the ram. I've noticed that my agent is only working about 91% of the time, with the other 9% being it waiting to send/receive.
That other 9% could be a nice production boost.

--Scott

Capt Shane · Mar 6, 2002, 04:11 PM

I am now on ubero... i will try and get my lab to run it also for awhile... an extra 30 comps...

[ 03-06-2002: Message edited by: Capt Shane ]

Grozni Majmun · Mar 6, 2002, 08:08 PM

Well, it works for me, but I am no expert.

Are you logged in as an administrator? Perhaps that makes a difference? Does anyone else know?

Originally posted by Bockie:


Are you sure it won't quit? I tried that and when I quit the terminal windows (two clients)...the JAVA listing in my TOP window disappears.

reader50 · Mar 8, 2002, 01:56 AM

The Latest Forecast
------------------------------
Ars TCP 243K ahead, outcrunched by 8K per day. 30 Days

FreeDC 39K ahead, outcrunched by 10K per day. 4 Days

The weather looks fine.

Oh, and I have been playing with more graphs. Check at the bottom of the Weekly Active page. That is how a serious powerup should look.

The other active projects have the graphs too, in the same place.

[ 03-08-2002: Message edited by: reader50 ]

mikkyo · Mar 8, 2002, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by reader50:
The Latest Forecast
------------------------------
Ars TCP 243K ahead, outcrunched by 8K per day. 30 Days

FreeDC 39K ahead, outcrunched by 10K per day. 4 Days

It will be sooner than that!
Im boosting production for the weekend.
If everyone else does the same we could do some serious damage.
Monday should be interesting.

malson · Mar 9, 2002, 12:33 AM

Boosting production!?! Good Lord man, how do you do it? I'm loving every second...

Scotttheking · Mar 9, 2002, 01:34 AM

I wish I could babysit my comps, then I could do 3K/day or so, instead of only 800/day.
I think I'll try firing it up monday night, and let em run until friday, since I'm home for spring break then.
I have to run SETI on the comps since it's more stable for the month or more I need it to be.

reader50 · Mar 9, 2002, 11:39 AM

The Forecast
----------------------
Ars TCP 227.5K ahead, outcrunched by 10.6K per day. 21 Days
FreeDC 18.5K ahead, outcrunched by 13.5K per day. 33 Hours

Looks like FreeDC will not make it to Monday. We should intercept Sunday evening.

Bockie · Mar 9, 2002, 12:39 PM

Update: I've put two agents per processor (in Terminal) as Scott suggested, so I *should* see some improvement in my DP800.

Shaktai · Mar 9, 2002, 12:46 PM

I think I can sqeeze an extra 5-10% out of my two machines over the weekend. It isn't a lot, but every little bit helps. Free DC is in the grave...

cdhostage · Mar 9, 2002, 06:25 PM

Team MacNN 686,000
FreeDC 700,000

We can get them in a day or two/

Scotttheking · Mar 9, 2002, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by John Avara:
Team MacNN are now producing 15k a day, Looks like th are getting serious about this project.

They are currently 225k behind us but moving in fast !! We may need to start ramping up a bit.

There is a 2 week Gauntlet starting on the 20th of March, but after that we need to start combating MacNN. I hope to see all come back full force.

John

That's from the ars forum.
That means we have 20 days to pass them before they have a serious ramping up.

I think our goal should be to pass ars on April first

--Scott

[ 03-09-2002: Message edited by: Scotttheking ]

gumby5647 · Mar 10, 2002, 12:06 AM

let the games er....crunching begin!!

reader50 · Mar 10, 2002, 12:22 PM

The Forecast
--------------------
Ars TCP 216K ahead, outcrunched by 10.8K per day. 20 Days
FreeDC 3.7K ahead, outcrunched by 14K per day. 6.5 Hours

Yes, it's getting close, people.

Shaktai · Mar 10, 2002, 07:35 PM

 Team MacNN 
Saturday, March 9 by John (Team Chili Peppers)
Team MacNN is ramping up big, They are doing 15K a day. We, mainly ahillman3, are doing around 7K a day. They continue to grow in numbers, current with 145 members of that 62 ACTIVE members.
TCP on the other hand only has 32 member with 5 ACTIVE members.
So here is the plan, After the TFY Gauntlet ends, around the 1st of April We need to hit Ubero hard with all that we can!!!
We can't let team MacNN have any project!!!

I agree with Scott, let's shoot to pass them on April 1st or sooner. It is doable, if we just keep our pace up. We know that Ars Technica will not give it up easily. Best to hit them hard and heavy now while they are distracted by their gauntlet. After that it will be a long hard struggle and a constant challenge to maintain #1 status after we get it.

Scotttheking · Mar 10, 2002, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Shaktai:


I agree with Scott, let's shoot to pass them on April 1st or sooner. It is doable, if we just keep our pace up. We know that Ars Technica will not give it up easily. Best to hit them hard and heavy now while they are distracted by their gauntlet. After that it will be a long hard struggle and a constant challenge to maintain #1 status after we get it.

We probably need to double our current power in order to keep ahead.
When ars wants to win a project, everyone goes on it until it's won.
We need a strong lead before they all start crunching.

--Scott

Edit: where was that posted at?

[ 03-10-2002: Message edited by: Scotttheking ]

Shaktai · Mar 10, 2002, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by Scotttheking:


We probably need to double our current power in order to keep ahead.
When ars wants to win a project, everyone goes on it until it's won.
We need a strong lead before they all start crunching.

--Scott

Edit: where was that posted at?

[ 03-10-2002: Message edited by: Scotttheking ]

It was posted on the Team Chili Pepper homepage. Yes, we need a lead and a strong and "steady" effort. Ars is never a pushover. The new Config client will help bring more people on line, once the final bugs are out of it. It sure helped me.

reader50 · Mar 11, 2002, 10:27 PM

The Forecast
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Ars TCP 198K ahead, outcrunched by 13K per day. 15.2 Days
FreeDC 19K behind, outcrunched by 16K per day. cya

Our production is still increasing. I'm projecting we will pass 18K today. This is good news of course, but it means the Ranks projection for Ars will remain a few days off.

That could be more good news in itself. If Ars goes by the Ranks projections, they will feel safer than they really are.

slipjack · Mar 11, 2002, 11:50 PM

WOW, way to pump it up guys. I notice we have newcomer cobramac crunching with 25 clients and 3000+ units/day. Whodat?

Not that it matters as long has he crunches for us. Welcome!

Shaktai · Mar 12, 2002, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by reader50:
The Forecast
--------------------
Ars TCP 198K ahead, outcrunched by 13K per day. 15.2 Days
FreeDC 19K behind, outcrunched by 16K per day. cya

Our production is still increasing. I'm projecting we will pass 18K today. This is good news of course, but it means the Ranks projection for Ars will remain a few days off.

That could be more good news in itself. If Ars goes by the Ranks projections, they will feel safer than they really are.

15.2 days to ARS??? That IS the kind of production we need. If we can keep up this pace, we have a chance to jump them before they can get fully geared up. Of course I have no doubt that they can bring some big guns to bear if they need to. Then again, we have a few big guns of our own. Yee Haw!!!

Scotttheking · Mar 12, 2002, 02:05 AM

I did what I said I wouldn't do.
I put ubero back on a few computers.
We'll see how it does this week.
I'll just let it run for a little while, and if it's good, I'll leave it on for a while.
Hopefully this will help a little bit, although it isn't a ton.