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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Hi there
First of all, I'd like to aplogize for any mistakes because English isn't my native language.
Concerning KaraNet your listing is right. They're 'dead meat' as your enumeration shows. There's nothing left to say about this team.
BTW, your 7-Day comparison is pretty nice  .
Whether Cracking Austria's buried is an other question. Though your rate is bigger than our one - currently  - the last word regarding this matter isn't already spoken. Therefore, look at us. Whatever the future brings time will tell.
Taking a closer look to your best-rated members it seems to us, that their rate wasn't so high for a long time - maybe we'll soon gain some performance in the next future, maybe not. Nobody's able to tell the future.
One thing is clear to us: It's no shame to lose against a more powerful team if only brute force is needed. We're all participating for the same purpose
[ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: CA][JC ]
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Tell me and I forget.
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Involve me and I understand.
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A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.(Plutarch)
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Join Date: Jun 2000
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Hello!
The numbers don't lie.  Actually you may have a shot at gaining some ground since we've ramped up production of Ubero...Then again, maybe not.
Anyways, let's all keep up the good work! 
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09.11.01 - UNITED WE STAND
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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As a true american would say
EAT OUR DUST
JK you guys are running pretty strong hopfully we will travel to the top together, most teams ahead arn't canking like we are around 50K a day. Time will tell all.
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I GOT WASTED WITH PHIL SHERRY!!!
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Originally posted by G4ME:
<STRONG>As a true american would say
EAT OUR DUST
JK you guys are running pretty strong hopfully we will travel to the top together, most teams ahead arn't canking like we are around 50K a day. Time will tell all.</STRONG>
I don't think that only Americans would say so
We'll catch ya (or at least try doing so  ) - sooner or later.
It's just a question of time
[ 03-12-2002: Message edited by: CA][JC ]
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Join Date: May 2000
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CA][JC, welcome to our boards. If I could read your language, I would post again on your boards.
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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Ich prüfe einen Übersetzerservice, erkläre mir, wenn so gerade dieser schrecklich ist.
Nicht sogar denken Sie an das Versuchen, uns zu führen. Die Resultate können verheerend sein.
-- Scott
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Join Date: Feb 2001
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Speaking of devastating results!
I punched your message into a couple of translation sites, Scott and found it interesting, but I'm sure you got your point across. 
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Originally posted by Scotttheking:
<STRONG>Ich prüfe einen Übersetzerservice, erkläre mir, wenn so gerade dieser schrecklich ist.
Nicht sogar denken Sie an das Versuchen, uns zu führen. Die Resultate können verheerend sein.
-- Scott</STRONG>
I guess it's better if we stay with English  . The translation service you've tried isn't that perfect. The word order isn't correct and the selection of words too.
edit:
Would you be so kind posting the original non-translated text? I'm interested in what went wrong
[ 03-13-2002: Message edited by: CA][JC ]
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Originally posted by CA][JC:
<STRONG>
I guess it's better if we stay with English  . The translation service you've tried isn't that perfect. The word order isn't correct and the selection of words too.
edit:
Would you be so kind posting the original non-translated text? I'm interested in what went wrong
[ 03-13-2002: Message edited by: CA][JC ]</STRONG>
I'm testing a translator service, so just tell me if this is awful.
Don't even think about trying to pass us. The results can be devastating.
--Scott
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Well, there came out something like this:
'I'm examining a translation-service, so tell me if just this is awful.
Don't think even on this attempt to lead us. The results can be devastating.'
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Tell me and I forget.
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Join Date: Feb 2001
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I'd say that came out pretty close... 
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Yeah, about those TPS reports, didn't you get the memo?
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2.3 Ghz Dual-Core G5/20" LCD/Life is Good!
Moo...
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haha.
That wasn't too bad, although one sentence makes no sense.
Oh well.
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Originally posted by Scotttheking:
<STRONG>haha.
That wasn't too bad, although one sentence makes no sense.
Oh well.</STRONG>
If you could understand German you would certainly laugh out loud 
Reading these sentences is really amusing...
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Originally posted by G4ME:
<STRONG>... hopfully we will travel to the top together, ...</STRONG>
It seems to me that we're gonna go this way
Originally posted by reader50:
<STRONG>CA][JC, welcome to our boards. If I could read your language, I would post again on your boards.</STRONG>
Never mind. You can post in English as well as in German; nearly every member should understand what you've written.
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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Babelfish came back with:
I check a compiler/translator service, explain to me, if so even this is terrible. You do not even think of trying to lead us. The results can be devastating.
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Mac Pro 2x 2.66 GHz Dual core, Apple TV 160GB, two Windows XP PCs
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Join Date: May 2000
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CA][JC, how did [CA] manage that 780K daily production spike 6 days ago? It was both impressive and cause for concern. 
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Originally posted by reader50:
<STRONG>CA][JC, how did [CA] manage that 780K daily production spike 6 days ago? It was both impressive and cause for concern.  </STRONG>
Well, I'm somewhat confused right now. There was no flush that big over the last weeks.
Don't be too much disappointed, new members are going to join us. I guess you'll see when they did so  .
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The relevant graphs appear on this page. Specifically, March 12 on this graph.
The effects of new members are filtered out of our graphs and tables. Large production spikes are usually caused by a stats failure the day before the spike. This time, there was no stats failure the day before. The spike appeared for [CA] and only one other team (the Russians).
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Maybe this peak is caused by an internal restructuring process. It wasn't possible for me to figure out how this spike came into being. Nonetheless, we'll surely always move on within your reach.
Hmm, are your graphs and tables still ok? Could it be possible that this spike only exists in your means of visualization?
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Some days, I just do not think quickly enough.
You are correct. The spike did not push up your unit total for that day. It must have been caused by someone merging two accounts into one. The final account would have gone up by a very large amount (the amount of the lost account). Our stats code would see that as new units instead of merged units.
Later on, I will look up which account it was.
Edit: "--[TEAM FRAGMAKER]--" was merged into "the dudes of [CRACKING AUSTRIA]". 476K extra work units.
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Never mind. I know which two accounts were concerned: taz and 'the dudes'. We started creating sub-teams within our team about two months ago though there were actually some accounts with many different members (e. g. Counterstrike-Clans) established in the beginning of their RC5-career. There are some more merging-procedures pending, I suppose.
It's kind of more clearly arranged if there are less accounts with the same number of members 
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Tell me and I forget.
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Originally posted by CA][JC:
<STRONG>Hi there
First of all, I'd like to aplogize for any mistakes because English isn't my native language.[JC ]</STRONG>
I wouldn't worry about your English. It and your spelling is better than many of my fellow Americans that post here.
Just wanted to say welcome!!
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Join Date: May 2000
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The rate data for [CA] has been fixed to remove the false spike. I'll keep an eye out for further account mergers. 
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Originally posted by Shaktai:
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I wouldn't worry about your English. It and your spelling is better than many of my fellow Americans that post here.
Just wanted to say welcome!!</STRONG>
Thx
I do my best but I know it's still not enough. I don't have an exellent command of the English language but as long as you're able to understand me everything is alright.
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Tell me and I forget.
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Involve me and I understand.
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A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.(Plutarch)
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