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Apr 20, 2002, 01:50 AM

Well, well, well. It seems we've been here before, no? You're back in our targets once more...I see we've been upgraded from "Danger Level 1" on your stats page. In addition, we just broke 500,000 WUs, got a new member with over 11,000 WUs, and passed up Texas A&M. It's only a matter of time now....

- Jonathan

Apr 20, 2002, 09:42 AM

33 Team MacNN 885 532,235 674 - The Good Guys
34 Amateur Radio Operators 473 528,965 644 - Buried deep
35 Free-DC 45 527,944 223 - Buried
36 LittleWhiteDog 404 512,735 2,085 13 Serious problems here

OOOOOO we been upgraded to Serious

WOOOF

Arkham_c · Apr 20, 2002, 09:53 AM

That's only because SETI is a waste of time. Look at our RC5 power. If we turned that on to SETI, you guys would be blown so far out of the water you'd be wishing for a parachute instead of a boat.

JAmZ SeSSioN · Apr 20, 2002, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Arkham_c:
That's only because SETI is a waste of time. Look at our RC5 power. If we turned that on to SETI, you guys would be blown so far out of the water you'd be wishing for a parachute instead of a boat.

Oh....the treaded "IF".......

:::::insert trembling paws here::::::

Why is it that whenever someone mention Mac...."IF" follows????? PC's outperform the Mac's. It's a fact you need to deal with...."IF" you can.
(see what I mean)

LWD-RED1944 · Apr 20, 2002, 12:25 PM

"If" Seti is a "waste of time" why are you running a recruiting drive???

reader50 · Apr 20, 2002, 03:08 PM

LWD guests, please be advised that MacNN has sig image size limits here.

The limits are: 140 x 40 pixels, less than 10K filesize, not animated.

The current limits were put into place after someone posted some NOAA weather maps as their "sig images" a few months back. 3 maps, each 2048 x 1536, over a megabyte each. That thread took 5-10 minutes to load on 56K.

JAmZ, I tried to register on LWD boards, to answer why the previous image was removed. This is what I got:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers
error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Field 'FORUM_MEMBERS.M_FIRSTNAME' cannot be a zero-length string.

/forum/register.asp, line 285

[ 04-20-2002: Message edited by: reader50 ]

SkiBikeSki · Apr 20, 2002, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by JAmZ SeSSioN:

PC's outperform the Mac's. It's a fact you need to deal with...."IF" you can.

You can't make such a broad statement like that. I seem to remember that with SETI v2.0.4 my 350MHz G3 finished a WU in 7.5 hours, while my friends brand new, top-of-the-line PIII 866Mhz finished in about 9 hours. If I had a 500MHz it would have finished 5 hours. Seems to me like in that case Macs outperform PC's

Also let's look a the latest CPU becnhmark in RC5:
Best Mac = 2x1GHz G4 = 20.79MKeys/s
Best Athlon = 2x1.53Ghz = 11.1Mkeys/s
Best P4 = 2x1.8GHz = 4.89MKeys/s

In the RC5 arena the PC's performance is laughable comepared to the G4!

JAmZ SeSSioN · Apr 20, 2002, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by reader50:
LWD guests, please be advised that MacNN has sig image size limits here.

The limits are: 140 x 40 pixels, less than 10K filesize, not animated.

The current limits were put into place after someone posted some NOAA weather maps as their "sig images" a few months back. 3 maps, each 2048 x 1536, over a megabyte each. That thread took 5-10 minutes to load on 56K.

JAmZ, I tried to register on LWD boards, to answer why the previous image was removed. This is what I got:

[ 04-20-2002: Message edited by: reader50 ]

:::::insert sincere apology here::::::

I'll change the size ASAP :o ....I'll also look into that error and get back to you

SpankinMonkee · Apr 20, 2002, 11:19 PM

Ahhhh Competition!! Makes the World go Around!!
May the best Team win!!

Tigerabbit · Apr 20, 2002, 11:38 PM

Seems I remember that on March 21st, LWD was 8 days from catching us. Now they are barking about being 13 days behind us. On May 21st, wouldn't it be funny if they were *18* days behind us?

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers
error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Field 'FORUM_MEMBERS.M_FIRSTNAME' cannot be a zero-length string.

/forum/register.asp, line 285

Typical M$ BS. Shoulda used Oracle. But then you can't teach dumb dogs new tricks. After all, they stand with M$, even after Billg neutered LWD's distribution of haxored Win2k USB 2.0 driver. Reference: http://www.theregus.com/content/4/24562.html

[ 04-21-2002: Message edited by: Tigerabbit ]

Shaktai · Apr 21, 2002, 12:02 AM

Strange?? Yesterday they were 13 days to pass us. Today they are 14 days. I think the pups are running in the wrong direction.

Apr 21, 2002, 12:11 AM

1 day reprive does win you the war. Just wonder how much longer the recruits will stay with you. The numbers dont lie, our output is more than double yours.

Once passed, I bet your new recruits run to another team and you'll drop further

SkiBikeSki · Apr 21, 2002, 01:14 AM

I don't know about your team members, but we don't run away when everything is done. We just say oh well, and find something else to do with out time. Maybe our new recruits will move to another DC project, or start a competition, or write a UNIX shell script. We're a tight knit group, and we don't really have deserters.

Shaktai · Apr 21, 2002, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by <Nope>:
1 day reprive does win you the war. Just wonder how much longer the recruits will stay with you. The numbers dont lie, our output is more than double yours.

Once passed, I bet your new recruits run to another team and you'll drop further

The thread title is "Feelin the heat yet"
The poster is "nope" from LWD
And he said, " 1 day reprive does win you the war."

Is this the classic Freudian slip or not? Hmmmm!

[ 04-21-2002: Message edited by: Shaktai ]

Apr 21, 2002, 01:24 AM

First off, sorry about the sig image; my bad

Secondly, glad to see you keep the team together, which is more than we can say for certain other multi-tasking teams.

Thirdly, we were barking before you had two members add a total of 40,000 WUs to your team, and now we're back to finish the job

And finally, you have to remember that we of the Windows way have this nifty little program called SetiQueue that we use to store our results. To give you a sense of perspective, our top member will dump 1000s of WUs at a time, about once or so a month (the SETI-Lax syndrome). So in other words, idle threats aside, your ass is grass and were all sick little puppies.

SkiBikeSki · Apr 21, 2002, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by <LWDJonathan>:

And finally, you have to remember that we of the Windows way have this nifty little program called SetiQueue that we use to store our results. To give you a sense of perspective, our top member will dump 1000s of WUs at a time, about once or so a month (the SETI-Lax syndrome). So in other words, idle threats aside, your ass is grass and were all sick little puppies.

We of the Macintosh way have a little program called SETI Unit Manager that caches SETI units. No doubt some of our users dump vast numbers of units all at once.

We also have our own SETI proxy server, but it sends and recieves units with Berkeley almost constantly.

[ 04-21-2002: Message edited by: SkiBikeSki ]

Tigerabbit · Apr 21, 2002, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by <LWDJonathan>:
To give you a sense of perspective, our top member will dump 1000s of WUs at a time, about once or so a month.

-*ROTFLMAOATSOTFI*-

[ 04-21-2002: Message edited by: Tigerabbit ]

Mac Zealot · Apr 21, 2002, 05:25 AM

Team MacNN is slowly turning it's power towards SETI@home as I last remember, but I still like to crunch RC5: Why?

My biggest RC5 dump this month off this dp800 alone: 6,200 units.
My average Rc5 dump this month: 2300 units.

I used to be a pc zealot, can't stand em now, this is for you LWDs

:biggest archie bunker blaspherry (or whatever they call that taunt) ever:

sideus · Apr 21, 2002, 01:50 PM

Wow, friendly bunch they are.

I've switched all my machines (5 total) from RC5 to seti, should help out.

Michael A. Peters · Apr 21, 2002, 06:52 PM

couldn't help but notice someone said that seti isn't very useful, so they do rc5.

Um, explain to me again how rc5 is useful?

If you want a useful project, run Folding@Home or dFold or Genome@Home.

Grozni Majmun · Apr 22, 2002, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by Shaktai:
Strange?? Yesterday they were 13 days to pass us. Today they are 14 days. I think the pups are running in the wrong direction.

The stats just updated. As Shaktai wrote, Saturday they were 13 days away, Sunday they were 14 days away, now, Monday they are still 14 days away....

Should we be scared?

SkiBikeSki · Apr 22, 2002, 01:13 AM

That doesn't mean we are just as fast as they are. If we were, the days to intercept would be infinite. That just means that we sped up a little, and some rounding is keeping 14 as the number displayed. I bet the precise value has gotten a little smaller.

Arkham_c · Apr 22, 2002, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by Michael A. Peters:
couldn't help but notice someone said that seti isn't very useful, so they do rc5.

Um, explain to me again how rc5 is useful?

If you want a useful project, run Folding@Home or dFold or Genome@Home.

It's useful in that you can win $2000 if nothing else.

When RC5 is over, I think I will move to dFold. It seems to be the best of the three you mentioned as far as the client software is concerned. I'll pick based on which client best suits my needs when I get to that point.

reader50 · Apr 22, 2002, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by SkiBikeSki:
That doesn't mean we are just as fast as they are. If we were, the days to intercept would be infinite. That just means that we sped up a little, and some rounding is keeping 14 as the number displayed. I bet the precise value has gotten a little smaller.

sideus joined with a thousand units, and we crunched 700+. Between both, we maintained the gap against their 1700+ units for the day.

If team Ranks updated more than once per day, I'd let it show a decimal place or days+hours. But multiple updates are not practical without a dedicated server. Scott has offered one, perhaps someday.

[ 04-22-2002: Message edited by: reader50 ]

SkiBikeSki · Apr 22, 2002, 03:36 PM

Whenever I get DSL I plan on running a simple linux box to be a dedicated webserver, FTP server, email server, and possibly host the team stats.

lwd_iceman · Apr 22, 2002, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by reader50:

sideus joined with a thousand units, and we crunched 700+. Between both, we maintained the gap against their 1700+ units for the day.

If team Ranks updated more than once per day, I'd let it show a decimal place or days+hours. But multiple updates are not practical without a dedicated server. Scott has offered one, perhaps someday.

[ 04-22-2002: Message edited by: reader50 ]

We're down to 10 days...
http://team.macnn.com/seti/rank1.phtml

lwd_iceman