[slipjack]

Hey guys,

Ubero's well in hand... what do you think about moving some power to SETI? A fight's brewin' and we need some major firepower. And you've got it.

[Shaktai]

Originally posted by slipjack:
<STRONG>Hey guys,

Ubero's well in hand... what do you think about moving some power to SETI? A fight's brewin' and we need some major firepower. And you've got it. </STRONG>

Or at least give it a day or two, just to demonstrate what we can do.

I moved all my power over until tomorrow night, (then back to Dist Folding for the competition.) Umm! Let's see, since I moved my power over to SETI earlier today I have added "6" units. By tomorrow night I should be able to add another 10 I am guessing, and that is with 4 measly little computers.

[JAmZ SeSSioN]

Originally posted by Shaktai:
<STRONG>

Or at least give it a day or two, just to demonstrate what we can do.
.....Let's see, since I moved my power over to SETI earlier today I have added "6" units. By tomorrow night I should be able to add another 10 I am guessing, and that is with 4 measly little computers.</STRONG>

Wow...you guy's weren't joking when you said PC's far much better than Mac's in SETI. Of the many boxes in my seti farm, I can SPEAK of one in particular.....

AMD Athlon 1600+ @ 1400mhz
1 unit @ 3.5/hr
24 hrs in a day
7 WU's a day

thats just one box compared to your 4 paper weights. Make sure you have good cooling going in your Macs.....Sounds like your pushing it to the limit....I wouldn't want you to cause a Mac meltdown.

[Grozni Majmun]

Originally posted by JAmZ SeSSioN:
<STRONG>
Wow...you guy's weren't joking when you said PC's far much better than Mac's in SETI. Of the many boxes in my seti farm, I can SPEAK of one in particular.....

AMD Athlon 1600+ @ 1400mhz
1 unit @ 3.5/hr
24 hrs in a day
7 WU's a day

thats just one box compared to your 4 paper weights. Make sure you have good cooling going in your Macs.....Sounds like your pushing it to the limit....I wouldn't want you to cause a Mac meltdown.
</STRONG>

LOL

Two of Shaktai's "Paperweights" are PCs....

[JAmZ SeSSioN]

Originally posted by Grozni Majmun:
<STRONG>

LOL

Two of Shaktai's "Paperweights" are PCs.... </STRONG>

That answers why such a high rate.....I assumed they were all Mac's. So I was suprised to see 10.

[gumby5647]

Originally posted by JAmZ SeSSioN:
<STRONG>

Make sure you have good cooling going in your Macs.....Sounds like your pushing it to the limit....I wouldn't want you to cause a Mac meltdown.

</STRONG>

bah! ive had my G4 down to 97F before....

[jbcool]

Originally posted by JAmZ SeSSioN:
<STRONG>

That answers why such a high rate.....I assumed they were all Mac's. So I was suprised to see 10.

</STRONG>

Yes Shaktai is one of those people, as many mac users are, that know to use the correct computer for the job at hand. He might contribute more horsepower if he wasn't so commited to folding projects. I agree with him that CPU cycles are put to much better use on medical DC projects than on SETI or RC5. But that is the nice thing about Team MacNN people they work on the DC project that they want. Not follow the leader of the pack.

[Shaktai]

Originally posted by JAmZ SeSSioN:
<STRONG>

Wow...you guy's weren't joking when you said PC's far much better than Mac's in SETI. Of the many boxes in my seti farm, I can SPEAK of one in particular.....

AMD Athlon 1600+ @ 1400mhz
1 unit @ 3.5/hr
24 hrs in a day
7 WU's a day

thats just one box compared to your 4 paper weights. Make sure you have good cooling going in your Macs.....Sounds like your pushing it to the limit....I wouldn't want you to cause a Mac meltdown.

</STRONG>

Very impressive for your Athlon. My Athlon 1600+ doesn't do that well. Of course I haven't tweaked SETI to run optimum on it either. I presume the difference is in the motherboards, OS etc...or that you quoted a best unit scenario rather than an average. My unit count was for only a partial day, and one of the PC's was "down" for about an hour.

As to the Macs, there is no danger of a meltdown there. They run cooler and more reliably than either of the PC's. They are also my everything machines and get lots of use for more than just crunching. Megahertz per megahertz, my 800 mhz Power Mac keeps up with the Athlon at most tasks, and excells at some. SETI is probably the least effecient project for Macs of all the DC projects. However even there we hold our own. Now if you really want a challenge, jump over to RC-5 for a few days, but be prepared for ego deflation.

The diversity of projects that Team MacNN takes part in, is testimony enough as to the versatility of Macs. I use both platforms, and the PC's make great, affordable crunchers. But for everyday real work, I prefer the Macs.

[JAmZ SeSSioN]

Originally posted by Shaktai:
<STRONG>

Very impressive for your Athlon. My Athlon 1600+ doesn't do that well. Of course I haven't tweaked SETI to run optimum on it either. I presume the difference is in the motherboards, OS etc...or that you quoted a best unit scenario rather than an average. My unit count was for only a partial day, and one of the PC's was "down" for about an hour.

</STRONG>

Ive seen numbers on my Athlon 1600+ as low as 3 hours and as high as 4.25 hours. 3.5 was an average. I can maintain those numbers, since I built the Athlon for my 5 year old son, it doesnt get stretched to the limits of game playing and graphic design. The Athlon get used about 2 hours a day and 2 hours at night. Other than that...it crunches seti 24/7. Now, my Dual P3 933mhz is set to affinity doing 2 units at a time but this is my computer and goes thru a hell of a work out daily, doing CAD and Graphic Design (please, no Mac plugs...I do know that Mac perform better in the graphic design dept).

FYI: Both machines run Gigabyte motherboards under Windows 2000 with 1 gig of ram

[mikkyo]

No offense intended but I don't really dig Seti much.
See they pissed me off long ago since their goal wasn't to crunch through all the data they had, but to keep their project running for 2 years. Now it is just to sustain crunching for the amount of data in.
I don't like that.

The altivec version kicked ass, it would probably do 1 WU every 20 minutes with the current data set. Then they'd run out of data and sit idle for a couple months. They need a better and faster infrastructure.

At least with the other projects, we have a chance to convince them to code for Altivec. With Seti the answer is no, so I dont see much point in "wasting" the CPU time on them. Let the PC users "waste" their CPU time crunching Seti while we take over the projects with better management. :-)

Of course, I happily donated all my existing WUs to Team MacNN as did cobramac and several others.

[gumby5647]

not to mention the server constantly going down.

[slipjack]

Originally posted by mikkyo:
<STRONG>No offense intended but I don't really dig Seti much.
See they pissed me off long ago since their goal wasn't to crunch through all the data they had, but to keep their project running for 2 years. Now it is just to sustain crunching for the amount of data in.
I don't like that.

The altivec version kicked ass, it would probably do 1 WU every 20 minutes with the current data set. Then they'd run out of data and sit idle for a couple months. They need a better and faster infrastructure.

At least with the other projects, we have a chance to convince them to code for Altivec. With Seti the answer is no, so I dont see much point in "wasting" the CPU time on them. Let the PC users "waste" their CPU time crunching Seti while we take over the projects with better management. :-)

Of course, I happily donated all my existing WUs to Team MacNN as did cobramac and several others.</STRONG>

Point taken. I wondered why SETI wasn't very popular for MacNN folks... I still am going to help out some after the comp though.

[Shaktai]

Originally posted by mikkyo:
<STRONG>No offense intended but I don't really dig Seti much.
See they pissed me off long ago since their goal wasn't to crunch through all the data they had, but to keep their project running for 2 years. Now it is just to sustain crunching for the amount of data in.
I don't like that.

The altivec version kicked ass, it would probably do 1 WU every 20 minutes with the current data set. Then they'd run out of data and sit idle for a couple months. They need a better and faster infrastructure.

At least with the other projects, we have a chance to convince them to code for Altivec. With Seti the answer is no, so I dont see much point in "wasting" the CPU time on them. Let the PC users "waste" their CPU time crunching Seti while we take over the projects with better management. :-)

Of course, I happily donated all my existing WUs to Team MacNN as did cobramac and several others.</STRONG>

Good response!

Well if you and cobramac get bored with Ubero, Dist Folding and Folding@home could always use some help. Though it is sounding like we might be seeing some new Ubero projects before too long.

[lwd_iceman]

Tell you what, LWD will turn off all of our team's Macs, if Team MacNN turns off all of your team's PC's

Fair enough?

lwd_iceman

[SkiBikeSki]

Not fair. Microsoft practically stuffed PC's down our throats. But Apple's never forced anything on you guys.