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Apr 23, 2002, 12:21 PM
 
It almost makes it seem like what were doing is mainstream. Wish there was a way we could harness such national publicitiy...
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/23/sc...al/23COMP.html
     
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Apr 23, 2002, 01:13 PM
 
Could you summarize the story so we don't have to sign up with NYTimes.
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Apr 23, 2002, 04:09 PM
 
Here are some snippets. Sorry for the length...but at least its not code.

Supercomputing '@Home' Paying Off for Other Research

SETI, will reach a milestone: it will have spent a million years of computer time sifting the electromagnetic noise emanating from the sky for a sign that someone or something is trying to get in touch.

An impromptu grass-roots supercomputer is inspiring other researchers to turn to the masses

Talks about Folding@home and Genome@home, Evolution@home and FightAIDS @home and “other projects (without the obligatory @'s in their names)”

Last year Dr. Pande's research group set a record by using its volunteer network to simulate 38 microseconds of the folding of a snippet of protein called the beta-hairpin.

In November, a different kind of milestone was reached when Gimps, for Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search, found the largest known number that has no factors.

When you lean back from your computer for a moment, the Pentium [yeah, oh well ] inside continues churning at a rate of hundreds of millions of times a second. To computer scientists, that is as wasteful as leaving your car idling while you run into the store. Hence the appeals to donate these "spare processing cycles" to the scientific charity of your choice.

"People have been locked into this supercomputing mentality," Dr. David P. Anderson, the SETI@home project director, said. "They want to have some gigantic thing in a box somewhere. I think that approach will ultimately go the way of the dinosaurs." Distributed computing has another advantage: unlike an ordinary computer, the grass-roots networks automatically upgrade themselves as people succumb to the desire for faster machines.

"A lot of people never believed the kind of calculations we do could be chopped up this way," Dr. Pande said. Since then the team has been working to simulate longer folding times. The ultimate goal — nowhere in sight — is to start with the description of an amino acid sequence and predict the final shape of the protein.

So many laboratories are asking for spare cycles that computer users must pick and choose lest they bog down their processors combating H.I.V., anthrax, smallpox, Ebola, multiple sclerosis, tuberous sclerosis complex and various cancers and neuromuscular diseases. (A list is available at www.aspenleaf.com /distributed.)

Another of the earliest projects, called distributed.net, also cracks cryptographic codes and is trying to find something called an optimal golomb ruler, a mathematical artifact important to coding and communications theory.

One vital ingredient is arresting animation — gyrating proteins, mountain ranges of SETI data being analyzed. These sophisticated cartoons (known in the trade as cool graphics) sap processor power that could go toward analyzing the data. But they keep computer owners motivated by giving them a sense that something interesting is going on.
     
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Apr 23, 2002, 04:39 PM
 
Glad to see they mentioned a lot of different projects. But they missed Ubero and dFold and others. Ubero and dFold really need help. Especially Ubero which needs a real project to work on
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Apr 23, 2002, 05:15 PM
 
So does anybody know if Ubero or Dfold have hit the screen savers show yet? A few minutes of exposure on that show was what got the SETI project going. Maybe a bunch of e-mails to Leo would help?
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Apr 23, 2002, 06:15 PM
 
Originally posted by SkiBikeSki:
<STRONG>Glad to see they mentioned a lot of different projects. But they missed Ubero and dFold and others. Ubero and dFold really need help. Especially Ubero which needs a real project to work on</STRONG>
Ubero has projects "in the works" and under development. I wouldn't worry about them. We will probably see some action there within the next few weeks or so.

Distributed Folding is "deliberately" not promoting themselves yet, as they scale up their operations and de-bug their software. They have "promotional plans" for the not too distant future. Wisely, they want to be sure they have all the pieces in place and that they work well first. (i.e - avoiding the server & stats problems that have plagued F@H.)
     
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Apr 23, 2002, 08:15 PM
 
Originally posted by Shaktai:
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Ubero has projects "in the works" and under development. I wouldn't worry about them. We will probably see some action there within the next few weeks or so.

Distributed Folding is "deliberately" not promoting themselves yet, as they scale up their operations and de-bug their software. They have "promotional plans" for the not too distant future. Wisely, they want to be sure they have all the pieces in place and that they work well first. (i.e - avoiding the server & stats problems that have plagued F@H.)</STRONG>
If you read the post at the Free-DC Howard said that they could handle a ten fold increase at this time and are working to make that even greater.
From the post it sounded like they had planned well ahead of what they would need instead of trying to play catch up.
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Apr 23, 2002, 08:56 PM
 
That's great news. I had no idea. I guess I should visit the Ubero and dFold forums more often.
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Apr 23, 2002, 11:37 PM
 
This was a response on the Free-DC about the Dfold project.

Are you from 60 minutes by any chance ? At present, the server is very underloaded. It is difficult to make a precise prediction but we believe we could easily handle a five-fold, or even ten-fold increase from what we have now (say 25k-50k users). However, we are indeed (as I speak) making further changes to allow the project to scale to 100K users and beyond. Not certain when these changes will be done but not too long from now we hope. This is part of the reason why so far, we have only advertized the project through word of mouth.

Now that we are doing bigger sample sizes and bigger proteins, (and most bugs are quashed), we hope to start recruiting more users to join the effort in the near future.


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Would it not be great if they had to worry about 100,000 users???
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