[reader50]

It is clear that we need to focus on the important things here. RC5 is definitely the right choice, we are just wasting our time with SETI.

Who would want to help find the alien invasion fleet anyway? You can be helping us crack the encoded message "It's time for 256-bit encryption" instead of the encoded message "You feeble humans stink. Sign up with us and get 0.9% APR. Special incentives for military base information."

And a grand in prize money, with the high, high chances of about 1 x 10^-9 of winning. Who could pass that up? That might be better odds than the lottery. On the other hand, a share in alien technology patent rights probably wouldn't work out to that much money. No one really wants a transporter or antigrav, those gimmicks wouldn't sell.

We should all stop crunching SETI right away, even take back our existing units if possible. RC5 needs us badly. Let's drop our top 40 standing in SETI and help crack the top 400 in RC5 before the end of the year.

RC5 - The clear choice for the descriminating cruncher. Available in diet too.

[chris v]

I take it that's abit of satire....

Funny images, though.

Seti really is dead here... I loaded up a new hard drive, and seti cant find its prefs, and when I try to log into an existing account, seti tells me it has no record of my email address, desite me being able to access my user stats with it.

I was gonna crunch some seti this weekend, but I CAN'T! so, RC5 it is.

Anybody know of an email address for seti help where human might be able to tell me what's wrong?

CV

[chris v]

Oh, nevermind.

SETI must have been in the middle of some sort of update... at any rate, I tried again, and it found my account, and sent me a W/U.

CV

[Scotttheking]

That is ******** .
SETI isn't dead, and I'm not going to stop crunching.
I do both.
SETI is a different type of project, some people may choose one, some the other. But it definitely isn't dead.
And I intend to hit 300 units in the next week.

-Scott

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G3 400, 384, 12 + 75 GB
PM 8500 - 150, 176, 4.3 GB
PM 7100 - 66, 32, 700 MB
PM 6100 - 66, 40, 1 GB
And the lowest of all:
Athlon Thunderbird 954MHz, 128, 8GB

[druber]

What's up, reader? Did an alien sneak in front of you and grab the last box of Kix at the grocery store? As one of the great moral choices facing humanity, choosing between Seti and RC5 seems to garner very little airtime on the news. Why is that, do you think?

[Cipher13]

RC5 is more "real". SETI is crap.
The client is slow (purposely), unoptimised, inefficient, inconsistent, and the Intel counterparts are better written.

The RC5 client really rocks on G4's. I get 3.5 Mkeys/sec on my G4 400... and it doesn't slow me down when I'm doing other stuff.


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AIM: Cipher1387
ICQ: 48111606
mail: cipher13@mac.com

[ddiokno]

Long live SETI
dave
8000+ w/u and growing!
You can see why I don't want to throw in the towel

[This message has been edited by ddiokno (edited 06-01-2001).]

[DocWest]

The SETI team isn't going anywhere.
The RC5 team is destined for a top 200 spot - with only 30 members at the moment!

The SETI project hasn't found anything in the two years it's been running. If it was going to find something, it would have already.
RC5 WILL finish. There is a certain number of keys to crunch. At the moment, it is 48.878% completed. Another 570 days and it will be finished, probably less.

Cipher's already mentioned how slow the mac port of SETI is these days.
In RC5, a G4 IS faster than most peecee rigs.
And G3's can still crunch their fair share, trust me. I only have two iMacs crunching, and I'm kicking it.

As the topic says - SETI is dead, RC5 is the way to go.

[reader50]

I'm sure the portrayal of aliens by Natasha Henstridge and other beauties is just Hollywood.

Yep, RC5. The person who crunches the winning unit will be remembered in history more than the person who cracks the "winning" SETI unit. Why, I can name all the previous code winners ... um, ... uh, ... well anyway, they will be remembered by everyone.

RC5, the only way to fly!

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by reader50:
I'm sure the portrayal of aliens by Natasha Henstridge and other beauties is just Hollywood.

Yep, RC5. The person who crunches the winning unit will be remembered in history more than the person who cracks the "winning" SETI unit. Why, I can name all the previous code winners ... um, ... uh, ... well anyway, they will be remembered by everyone.

RC5, the only way to fly!

At least with RC5 there ARE winners (and prizes...)

IF by some miracle SETI@home was to find anything, as if the "winner" would be notified. Can you say "NSA"?
Even if the NSA wasn't involved (which they are), its just so... ridiculous. "Congratulations! You found an alien! Well, err, you found a strange radio signal anyway... but it could be an alien! Or a low flying plane, but still...!"




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AIM: Cipher1387
ICQ: 48111606
mail: cipher13@mac.com

[keyser_soze]

cipher, you got the reasons why seti@home is so ridiculous wrong. It has nothing to do wtih the nsa or with there being aliens anywhere in the universe. The problem is with human logic. S@h is assuming aliens would be using radio waves. Humans have been using radio waves for less than a century. In the next few centuries, hopefully humans will learn faster than light communications, or at the very least, we'll be using laser comms or whatever.

But what is a century or 2 or 3 in the universal scheme of things. The earth has been around for 5ish billion years. Many stars have already gone through there life cycle before our solar system was created. So what are the chances that a sentient race near enough for us to detect is actually develping at the same time as us over billions and billions of years and is using radio waves to communicate right now.

Yeah, my powerball numbers are 7-13-24-21-36-41 PB 11. I hope to win a few centuries before S@H finds alien life.

[zac4mac]

Either way, you are contributing to the evolution of computer science. I started running S@H a year and a half ago, not to find aliens, per se, but to be part of the largest distributed computing project ever. Berkeley has had such overwhelming response, they have deemed it necessaary to retard the client so much that it loses its competitive nature in "team play". I am still involved, crunching S@H on an old 8500/G3 and rC5 on my G4DP. Another large distrinuted project now, is rC5. It is optimized for 68k, 60x, G3's AND G4's(duallies especially). It has just as much scientific merit as S@H, with the added bonus of possibly winning a grand.