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Since it seems no one else is doing this, just figured I'd post it.
Team MacNN completed 25,548 blocks yesterday at a sustained rate of 79,375 Kkeys/second!
Team MacNN is ranked #181 for yesterday!
The odds are 1 in 2,047 that this team will find the key before anyone else does.
Also, it seems pretty weak to me that we only have 23 members actively participating!! I mean, come on! Isn't there some way we can put an ad to join the team on the MacNN homepage or something? I'm sure there's more people out there that would run the client as a part of our team!!
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09.11.01 - UNITED WE STAND
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Team MacNN completed 30,055 blocks yesterday at a sustained rate of 93,378 Kkeys/second!
Team MacNN is ranked #160 for yesterday!
The odds are 1 in 1,876 that this team will find the key before anyone else does.
P.S. - all you big crunchers...u betta watch out..here i come...
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can't blame him. he is part of a new site and all. definitely gonna miss the guy, tho. we're doing pretty well, all things considered. when we first started, i'd search the team listings for "mac," and it'd return the top 50 results. we were nowhere to be seen, no big surprise. these days, though...
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Yeah, I do that too, druber!  Unfortunately, no mac teams to pass in the near future.
Anyway, we had another great day yesterday!
Keep up the crunching 
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I like small teams. They are usually tighter-knit. But we do need more folks on the team...
Bummer to lose Misha, both to the team and MacNN in general.
Thanks so much NFN goofballs.
Only 5 members that haven't crunched this month, with the top 10 doing well over a thousand a day.
We advanced 10 places yesterday.
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We could definitly use a couple more folks with dual 533's.
I leave my tower and Cube on all the time, but I realized the other day, I had 3 seti w/u's languishing on various computers, and decided to give them back a little time temporarily.
One thing I noticed, is that if the dnetc is running in the background, and slows down while you're doing processor intensive work, it'll stay slow for a while, even when you walk away. Quitting the client, then relaunching it right away will bring the numbers right back up to full blast.
Definitely a bummer about Misha... last I looked he had a "team" of one going over there. Hope things work out for him at Mac Minute, I guess it's a pretty new site, although it's not bad. I peek in every once in a while
Keep crunching!
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Originally posted by chris v:
<STRONG>One thing I noticed, is that if the dnetc is running in the background, and slows down while you're doing processor intensive work, it'll stay slow for a while, even when you walk away. Quitting the client, then relaunching it right away will bring the numbers right back up to full blast.</STRONG>
Actually Chris, if you run OSX, you'll find that DNETC will always go back up to par when the processor is free. OS9 always seems to slow down unless you relaunch the client, but from my experience- OS9 will crash anyway after so many days. One week here so far with OSX and the client, no problems.
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Originally posted by monte:
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Actually Chris, if you run OSX, you'll find that DNETC will always go back up to par when the processor is free. OS9 always seems to slow down unless you relaunch the client, but from my experience- OS9 will crash anyway after so many days. One week here so far with OSX and the client, no problems.
Cheers</STRONG>
99 dollars American, just so I can run distributed.net faster? I do want to make the move, but the odds of winning the grand for finding the key aren't quite good enough. As soon as I get a better reason to go OS X (cough*photoshop*cough) I'm sure I will. Been reading up on it, and I've got a nice clean partition sitting here empty. Now, it's Adobe's move.
Back to crunching,
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My little iMac 400MHz and iBook 466Mhz have been crunching away for a couple weeks now...looks like I won't get much higher than 12th place on the team on any given day. But that's fine. Doubt I'll ever do more than 900 per day.
I think it's nice that my Macs have something to do while I'm not home.
I hope to get a dual processor machine before Christmas this year, and hopefully faster than 533MHz, so....
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Hey, 900 w/u's is awesome for just two machines! After running for nearly 22 hours, I only clocked in just over 1000 units. Never give up!!! 
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Originally posted by chris v:
<STRONG>One thing I noticed, is that if the dnetc is running in the background, and slows down while you're doing processor intensive work, it'll stay slow for a while, even when you walk away. Quitting the client, then relaunching it right away will bring the numbers right back up to full blast.</STRONG>
Try using Peek-a-Boo. I use it and have set the client a high CPU priority. It keeps the speed right up all the time, except when doing anything processor intensive.
CHECK IT OUT HERE
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Originally posted by DocWest:
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Try using Peek-a-Boo. I use it and have set the client a high CPU priority. It keeps the speed right up all the time, except when doing anything processor intensive.
CHECK IT OUT HERE
[ 06-11-2001: Message edited by: DocWest ]</STRONG>
I have...It doesn't seem to help much. I've even tried placing RC5 on a RAM disk, with no noticable change (still can't break 3.8 Mkeys/sec). For me, the built in priority manager works best! 
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I run the client in OS 9, b/c for some reason when I run it in X, I get a 66% reduction in speed?!?!
Also, who is "Chris" on our team, you know, the guy who's at the top? Anyways, I wanted to ask him a question. I think it said that on his highest day, he did something like over 100,000 units, at a certain amount of keys i can't remember? How the heck did you do that? What and how many machines did you have it running on?
Also, for those of you that want to monitor the processor usage of the client, I suggest that you go and download Processor PPC.
http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0...lst-7-6.914226
It's a great thing. It shows like a list format, but you can also go up in the file menu, and select the cpu load, and sort of make it a little bigger/taller with the load menu. Anyways, you can see how much of the processor it's using, and also, you can determine what to leave at the front (ie, AOL, Finder, IE, etc,) so that you can maximize dnetc's usage when you're away from your computer. I find that if I leave Processor as the "front" application, the faceless client gets the most processor over time. Anyways, fun to play around with and watch.
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Originally posted by GetSome681:
<STRONG>Also, who is "Chris" on our team, you know, the guy who's at the top?</STRONG>
That's Chris TeSelle, aka cteselle, aka the Random Chicken guy (his website www.randomchicken.com is cool!). 
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Wow, Chris. Lotsa aka's. Lotsa keys too...
GetSome- tried to get "processor" but got a 404 instead. Would you e-mail it to me?
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Okay, I downloaded this Processor program ,which is kind of cute (it's the only way Ive seen to monitor or quit the faceless client, so it could have some small amount of utility) and I as about to post how cool it was, but I had two hard freezes in a span of ten minutes with it running. I definitely won't be using it much while I'm qorking on some big Photoshop project...
Still getting around to Peek-a-boo, except it's beddy bye time here in Texas for those of us who work early.
Had a power outage at work on Saturday, and the Tower wasn't set to reastart automatically, so I lost a day of crunching on it. First time I've fallen below 1000 W/U's in a while.
Back at it,
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Yeah, try peekaboo, it's rock solid.
and does everything that other one does.
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hmm, that's strange, i have it running constantly, and usually have tons of apps open, including photoshop 6, so, who knows? sorry about that though..
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Grrrrrr.
Just fired up Internet Exploder and it d/l'd "processor" just fine.
Wish I didn't prefer Netscape sometimes but I hate IE's interface.
Thanks GetSome...
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It might not have been the Processor app that brought it down-- I had a couple more crashes last night. Time for TechTool. I didn't seem to get any more speed out of the client by assigning it high priority in Peek-a-boo, but that's definitely an interesting little app, too. It looks a little more comprehensive and useful than Processor, although Processor is more fun to watch.
Seems like all the keyservers were down for several hours day before yesterday. 2 days in a row below 1000 units.
Making up for it now. The team was over 100,000 keys/sec again yesterday. Not bad for 28 active members, when you compare to the other teams in the top 200. A lot of them have multiple hundreds of members.
Crunching, crunching crunching. Keep those dogies crunching.
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Yeah, I was curious as to why I only had around 1000 units, I was sure that I had more. Anyways, you're right, we do have a pretty good team, but I think that's mostly because of the machines we are running. If you look, they have a statistics page that gives the key rate for almost every single processor out there, and the G4 just stomps on everything, not matter what speed!
Still though, I sure wish we could get more people!
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So how many units does everyone keep in their buffers?
I guess you can have small ones if you have cable or other broadband connection.
But I have dialup, and I like keeping a huge buffer just in case.
I have 3000 units in mine.
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I keep 24 hr buffers at home.
That means about a 38 block buffer per comp.
I don't know about the other comps I have it on, and I can't exactly check 
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Wait? So if their servers were down, does that mean that the units we tried to submit were lost? Yet, for those of you with bigger buffers, keeping more units "on your computer" rather then being sent very often to the servers, that you didn't lose your units?
Anyways, do you all think it makes more sense to set a large buffer time? I'm on a T3+ so it doesn't really take much time to send and retrieve information. 
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No.
If the server is down, RC5 can't connect, so it just keeps on crunching.
It is set for large buffer and frequent updates, so I dunno.
In other really cool news, I'm sitting here watching the UPS tracking thing as my Tibook progresses across the US.
That is going to be some good RC5 crunching
It is supposed to be here tomorrow morning.
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geez!! fgh49834udsf No matter how hard I try, I can be #1 for a day, "Chris" just keeps on raising the bar every time I do. But that's alright, I will be #1 one day, guess I'm just going to have to bring it up to 9-10k units a day. Although it sucks for me, the competition is good for the team I suppose since we'll all be trying to crank out more and more units.
COME ON GUYS!! WHO WANTS TO TRY AND BEAT ME TODAY?!?! 
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I keep maybe a 350-block buffer at home, very small one at work.
I think yesterday may have been our first day above 40k blocks. We are few, but mighty. And yet, let us pause a moment for participant #355,111... Quadra? 
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Originally posted by druber:
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I think yesterday may have been our first day above 40k blocks. We are few, but mighty. And yet, let us pause a moment for participant #355,111... Quadra?  </STRONG>
Hey, now. I've got a perfectly good Quadra 950 gathering dust in my office... I even turned it on today looking through archives (can you say SCSI syquest?) Don't MAKE me whip it out!
Really, it was a great computer back when.
How do you set a larger buffer, anyway? I get 7 or 8 packets, and can't figure out where to set it up to load more at once. If I hit fetch.. when there's already 8 in the buff-in file, it says it's full, and won't load any more.
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To set the buffer:
Select configure from the commands menu.
Go to #2, buffer and buffer update options.
Go to #14, fetch time threshold.
Set it to RC5=<hours to buffer>
You are done.
In other news, I got my Ti, it is cool.
I set the buffer for 12 hours, and it downloaded 700 blocks.
Unfortunately, my P3 600 at work died, so not crunching on it.
And I'm going on vacation for 2 weeks, and the mother has declared that home comps must go off
Yes, I'm now the mod, whcih means I'm the forum advocate.
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Eek, first double post
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Originally posted by Bockie:
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That's Chris TeSelle, aka cteselle, aka the Random Chicken guy (his website www.randomchicken.com is cool!).  </STRONG>
thanks...
Here is the deal with the 100,000 day that I had, a long time ago. I had dnet running on a P3/500 box, and for some reason it was not sending in the results when it should have. Anyways, it took me about 6 months to figure it out, so when I finally had the chance to flush it, I had so many keys built up that it equalled well over 100,000. It actually took so long to upload that I think that the results got broken up into 2 days...
I currently have probably 10 different machines chunking away... several linux dual processor boxes, about 5 G4, and some other misc, suns...
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Thanks, I appreciate hearing that! I figured it must have been something like that which happened. All I know, is that you are a formidable opponent. I'm trying my darn best to top you for just a day, and it's proving more difficult than I thought. Every time I set up the crunching, you seem to do the same as well. Everyday, for the past few days, I add another G4 to the crunching, and I still find myself #2. Soon, I won't be able to get my hands on anymore G4s, and I'll be stuck, oh well.
Now, if only we could get the rest of the team crankin them out, geez, 20 active participants x ~3,000 units a day = $$$$ bling bling 
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Well we had an excellent day of crunching yesterday.
Team MacNN completed 42,640 blocks yesterday at a sustained rate of 132,478 Kkeys/second!
Team MacNN is ranked #101 for yesterday!
Up 13 spots to #937.
Great work everyone.
The battle between GetSome and Chris is really hotting up!
How far will it go?
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Originally posted by DocWest:
<STRONG>The battle between GetSome and Chris is really hotting up!
How far will it go?</STRONG>
I will soon be dethroned... 
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nah, you might not necessarily lose it....but i'm going to try my best.... 
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Thanks...
I think my next goal will be to hit 10k units on a consistent basis.....look for it in about a week or so... 
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Jolly good show!
How many W/U's d'you suppose I could get per day out of a Pentium 3 300mz?
I've got 2 pc's in accounting, and I might add them to my account, if it'll get me another couple hundred per day.
Now, if I could just get my artist to stop USING the G4. All that artwork really slows the client down.
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I'm in the process of downloading 50,000 units for my Ti, which will be enough for a while
I'll be back home in a week and a half, so until then, you can all pass me.
And whip me in SETI (the mom shut off all the home comps).
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Put a 4th machine on line last night... Currently running:
Sawtooth G4 450 3.95 M/keys max
Cube 450 3.88 M/keys max
Power Center 150 430 K/keys max
Dell PII 350 950 K/keys max
The tower does art all day, which slows it down, and the Cube burns CD's and scans photos at night (got about 1000 35mm slides to archive. Ugh) so that slows them down a bit.
The PII 350 vs. the G4 450 speed difference sure points out the mz. myth. 30% faster by the numbers, but 400% faster in the real world.
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Well, never did get 50,000 units.
Only got 13,000 before the keyserver stopped giving me them.
But that is enough.
I've got a net connection for most of the rest of my trip.
This Ti is the main crunching comp, as all my home ones are off.
But it is really paying off, crunching around 1000 blocks per day.
Hope you enjoy your race, it is useful.
I'm in a SETI race with a friend, and I get (with all comps on) 5 WUs per day.
For SETI, that is no small amount.
Keep crunching, and lets get ranked in the top 500.
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Hah, broke 300,000 today and passed brOck. 
Almost half the team(14/31) had no units done yesterday, c'mon guys - crunch!
About a half dozen of you are climbing on me fast; gonna be a horse race here? Looks like I'll be #5 or 6 pretty soon.
I wish iTunes had an equalizer, this sounds soooo flat.
Gotta check the poop for running RC5 on OS X, seems the only way I can get to the boards now is on OS X and Exploder...
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So, using OSX now?
Get omniweb instead of IE, it is so much better.
You can get it off your iDisk.
I lost 2 of my RC5 machines, my work P3 550 and 600.
Oh well.
I'm trying to put out at least 1000 units per day.
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Yeah! Where is everybody? Only 14 team members active yesterday, & we're still #134 for the day. If all 28 people got after it at once, we'd kill 'em.
I, however, am going on vacation for 5 days, so I'll probably turn the Cube off. The two machines at work will still crunch, maybe 1000 units a day, maybe less.
The Bookkeeper got uptight about me running the client on the Pentium II and made me take it off.
See ya'll next week
CV
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When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. -- Jonathan Swift.
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Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Yeah, where is everyone??? It's gettin lonely...... 
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Senior User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Australia
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Yeah, i dont send in work units every day.
but im still crunching 24/7.
dialup sux.
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Mac Elite
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: near Boulder, Colorado
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I forgot just how bad dialup sux. I'm in Texas, on my pop's iMac thru AOL on a 21kbps connection. Just took almost ten minutes to get here and check stats to make sure my G4 is still running back home. Can't wait to get home to my DSL. This connection speed and AOL blow.
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