[reader50]

Future milestone posts will be for weekly milestones. Because our RC5 backfiles go back just 37 days, there were only 8 additional milestones passed. So I just rolled them into the weekly posting.

Milestones between November 14, 2001 and October 8, 2001, 37 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (13)
. . jbiga #7124
. . legacyb4@www.lumine.net
. . sayling@low.clara.co.uk
. . pythas@hotmail.com
. . seking@u.washington.edu
. . Albert Wu
. . bergerjs@aol.com
. . outzider@mac.com
. . icee@wt.net
. . efphillips@mac.com
. . alex.huber@screentek.ch
. . peshealy@mac.com
. . aalok@uchicago.edu

*Passed the 50K milestone (3)
. . jbiga #7124
. . legacyb4@www.lumine.net
. . Jeff May

*Passed the 100K milestone (1)
. . druber

*Passed the 250K milestone (3)
. . EarthMk2@aol.com
. . macgyvr64@home.com
. . erik@webcentrix.net

*Passed the 500K milestone (6)
. . Scotttheking
. . malson
. . G4ME
. . paul@concertina.net
. . mike656@softhome.net
. . GetSome681@resnet.gatech.edu

*Passed the 1M milestone (1)
. . Scotttheking

[Edited to add the 25K milestones]

[ 11-24-2001: Message edited by: reader50 ]

[druber]

druber says hey for 100k. wish i could install rc5 on the lab i sup, but i work with the paranoid android. have to see what i can do.. go team macnn!

[legacyb4]

Just noticed the comment from Phlump... was he/were they high when they actually said this?

-
"I will be completely and absolutely shocked if the G4 can approach speeds as fast as half the speed of a comparably clocked P-iii or Athlon."

- Phlump, August 21, 2001
-

My G4/400 is running circles around my P3/700 at work with room to spare...

I know that the RC5 isn't the best indication of true computing power since the clients are optimized differently for different platforms; this was demonstrated when I installed the Linux client on a Celeron 533 and watched my rates plunge from 1.4 mkeys/sec (under Windows 2000 on the same machine) to less than 0.5 mkeys/sec...

Cheers.

[phlump]

was he/were they high when they actually said this?

Not high at all; you took me out of context. The full quote is:

Besides that realtime 3d performance, the beastly thing with Maya is the render times. I will be completely and absolutely shocked if the G4 can approach speeds as fast as half the speed of a comparably clocked P-iii or Athlon. On the other cross platform 3d package I work with (Cinema 4d) the G4's rendering performance is roughly 2x longer than a P-iii at the same clock speed. And the P-iiis and Athlons, as we all know, go to much higher clock speeds than the G4.

And I still stand by that, as newer versions of Cinema4d and Maya continue to bear this out. A G4 renders scenes in roughly twice the time of a comparably clocked P-iii. I was not talking about RC5 performance, where the Altivec optimizations in the crunch-vec core put the G4 on top.

Nice ramp by the way, guys. I guess I'll have to respond in some fashion... Good thing I still have 48 more 1.4 Athlons and 30 G4/500s to get crunching!

[Scotttheking]

Originally posted by phlump:
<STRONG>

And I still stand by that, as newer versions of Cinema4d and Maya continue to bear this out. A G4 renders scenes in roughly twice the time of a comparably clocked P-iii. I was not talking about RC5 performance, where the Altivec optimizations in the crunch-vec core put the G4 on top.

Nice ramp by the way, guys. I guess I'll have to respond in some fashion... Good thing I still have 48 more 1.4 Athlons and 30 G4/500s to get crunching! </STRONG>

You going down.
Now get your a$$ back on IRC sometime.

[reader50]

November 21, 2001, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (6)
. . dou@onvo.org
. . rigray@fit.edu
. . demonhood@demonhood.com
. . corinthian@mac.com
. . elzinat@mac.com
. . Eric Smalling

*Passed the 50K milestone (5)
. . pythas@hotmail.com
. . seking@u.washington.edu
. . bergerjs@aol.com
. . sayling@low.clara.co.uk
. . efphillips@mac.com

*Passed the 100K milestone (2)
. . legacyb4@www.lumine.net
. . slugcouple2@aol.com

*Passed the 250K milestone (1)
. . SkiBikeSki

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . kyle@furtheraway.org

*Passed the 2.5M milestone (1)
. . Chris

[edited to add the 25K milestones]

[ 11-24-2001: Message edited by: reader50 ]

[David Shaw]

I have recently joined the RC5 effort, and the MacNN team. I am clipping along at a decent rate, and I still have at least one (and maybe two) machines to add to the effort. Right now I have 3 G4's going on it in their spare cycles, and I have my P3/750 thay I will add when I get some time.

Yesterday I ranked 8th overall within the team. Here are my stats for yesterday:
4,349 blocks were completed yesterday (0.00000633% of the keyspace) at a sustained rate of 13,512 KKeys/sec! Ranked 2,278 for the day.

[reader50]

For those with G3's and earlier, the 50K RC5 milestone is not comparable to the 50 unit SETI milestone. Accordingly, we've added a 25K milestone on RC5.

I've updated the posts here, and the Team news pages.

If you miss your own milestones, you now have a 30-day listing on the Team site here.

[reader50]

November 28, 2001, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (14)
. . Andrew Pinski
. . slipjack@aphoria.com
. . discstickers
. . crash@waste.org
. . jvaldez@mac.com
. . logand@yorku.ca
. . spam2@theresistance.net
. . d.sherin@shaw.ca
. . bmcgann1@twcny.rr.com
. . cpatubo@mac.com
. . mstrjon32@rcn.com
. . anakin@mindspring.com
. . bozo the clown
. . ketelaar@slu.edu

*Passed the 50K milestone (8)
. . Bockiemon@home.com
. . Andrew Pinski
. . peshealy@mac.com
. . dou@onvo.org
. . outzider@mac.com
. . slipjack@aphoria.com
. . Albert Wu
. . alex.huber@screentek.ch

*Passed the 250K milestone (1)
. . Tadd

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . jim@ampcast.com

*Passed the 2.5M milestone (1)
. . robertk@halcyon.com

[chris v]

Since the weekly milestones haven't been posted yet.... Chris V says 508,779
as of 12/6/01 I might not have a ton of machinery, but persistence has been known to pay off.

CV

[malson]

I'll go ahead and chime in with my 784,215

I'd like to thank al the little people who made this possible...

[reader50]

December 5, 2001, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (13)
. . robertk89@aol.com
. . Chris Alemany
. . chiznibitz@yahoo.com
. . bta80@mac.com
. . PatGmac
. . pleyden1@mac.com
. . agitzen@mac.com
. . j_pphillips@yahoo.com
. . 533
. . midgley@mac.com
. . mayodreams@maplenet.net
. . etd@bigfoot.com
. . davidm@cs.stanford.edu

*Passed the 50K milestone (9)
. . robertk89@aol.com
. . discstickers
. . rigray@fit.edu
. . spam2@theresistance.net
. . proux@mac.com
. . Chris Alemany
. . demonhood@demonhood.com
. . anakin@mindspring.com
. . logand@yorku.ca

*Passed the 100K milestone (2)
. . Andrew Pinski
. . slipjack@aphoria.com

*Passed the 250K milestone (2)
. . legacyb4@www.lumine.net
. . Osirisis@yahoo.com

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . CVREELAND@austin.rr.com

------------------------
One of these days, I'll actually get Wednesday's Milestones up on Wednesday.

[malson]

Hey, where's my 750k milestone??? I know I passed it before the 5th!

[mumble]bastards...[/mumble]

[legacyb4]

Just rounded the 250k corner and am heading full speed towards the 500k mark... at this rate, I will clear it just before the year rolls over!

Cheers.

[reader50]

Originally posted by malson:
<STRONG>Hey, where's my 750k milestone???...</STRONG>

The current Milestones list is:
25K, 50K, 100K, 250K, 500K, 1M, 2.5M, 5M, 10M.

I'll add code as needed in the future to catch still higher people, but at the moment no one is much past 2.5M.

[mumble]there ain't no 750 milestone...[/mumble]

Congratulations anyway.

[slipjack]

Originally posted by reader50:
<STRONG>December 5, 2001, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (13)
. . robertk89@aol.com
. . Chris Alemany
. . chiznibitz@yahoo.com
. . bta80@mac.com
. . PatGmac
. . pleyden1@mac.com
. . agitzen@mac.com
. . j_pphillips@yahoo.com
. . 533
. . midgley@mac.com
. . mayodreams@maplenet.net
. . etd@bigfoot.com
. . davidm@cs.stanford.edu

*Passed the 50K milestone (9)
. . robertk89@aol.com
. . discstickers
. . rigray@fit.edu
. . spam2@theresistance.net
. . proux@mac.com
. . Chris Alemany
. . demonhood@demonhood.com
. . anakin@mindspring.com
. . logand@yorku.ca

*Passed the 100K milestone (2)
. . Andrew Pinski
. . slipjack@aphoria.com &lt;--------------------------- YA BABY

*Passed the 250K milestone (2)
. . legacyb4@www.lumine.net
. . Osirisis@yahoo.com

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . CVREELAND@austin.rr.com

------------------------
One of these days, I'll actually get Wednesday's Milestones up on Wednesday. </STRONG>

[Demonhood]

this isn't a personal milestone, but Team MacNN is now in the Top 200 of all RC5 teams (#191 currently).

we were also ranked #21 for the day of December 6th (just that day, not overall). pretty promising.

[discstickers]

If you look at the Team's Overall ranking, we are now ahead of Microsoft RC5 Party Team.

[reader50]

Yes, and we stomped ResExcellence too, at about the same time.

I found my old work units on an old email address and recouped them. On the bright side, I picked up abouter 20k units. On the downside, it reduced my overall rate to something abysmal since now instead of running for 3 weeks I've been "running" for 1504 days!

It also shows how far processing power has evolved between then and now. Back then a good day was 660 blocks in a day. Now a good day is 6190 blocks in a day.

My Stats

[reader50]

December 12, 2001, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (4)
. . bfatherr@harlingen.tstc.edu
. . Jon
. . denis3@aol.com
. . crusher4@mac.com

*Passed the 50K milestone (13)
. . bfatherr@harlingen.tstc.edu
. . jvaldez@mac.com
. . chiznibitz@yahoo.com
. . agitzen@mac.com
. . crash@waste.org
. . Eric Smalling
. . PatGmac
. . pleyden1@mac.com
. . bta80@mac.com
. . 533
. . cpatubo@mac.com
. . bozo the clown
. . gk_1998@hotmail.com

*Passed the 100K milestone (9)
. . robertk89@aol.com
. . bfatherr@harlingen.tstc.edu
. . pythas@hotmail.com
. . Bockiemon@home.com
. . seking@u.washington.edu
. . peshealy@mac.com
. . jbiga #7124
. . efphillips@mac.com
. . masterzeus@mac.com

*Passed the 250K milestone (2)
. . JSnuff1

I passed 100k this week, but I'm not listed -- spam2@theresistance.net

[reader50]

dnetc's most recent stats still show you at 95K currently. If you've passed 100K, you will turn up in next week's milestones.

[reader50]

December 19, 2001, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (7)
. . Dez
. . dylann@mac.com
. . wulf@mac.com
. . MacAddict
. . helmwind@mac.com
. . bobdalgleish@mac.com
. . camr@mail.utexas.edu

*Passed the 50K milestone (4)
. . Dez
. . corinthian@mac.com
. . d.sherin@shaw.ca
. . j_pphillips@yahoo.com

*Passed the 100K milestone (7)
. . spam2@theresistance.net
. . discstickers
. . Chris Alemany
. . dou@onvo.org
. . sayling@low.clara.co.uk
. . bergerjs@aol.com
. . bta80@mac.com

*Passed the 250K milestone (1)
. . bfatherr@harlingen.tstc.edu

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . rc5@softekpartners.com

[reader50]

December 26, 2001, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (6)
. . rc5@brianosaurus.org
. . jccbin@ro3.com
. . rwhiffen@mac.com
. . steevak@spu.edu
. . dougandjaana@mac.com
. . andrew@dphc2000.com

*Passed the 50K milestone (5)
. . dylann@mac.com
. . Jon
. . wulf@mac.com
. . rc5@brianosaurus.org
. . mayodreams@maplenet.net

*Passed the 100K milestone (7)
. . Dez
. . anakin@mindspring.com
. . rigray@fit.edu
. . alex.huber@screentek.ch
. . chiznibitz@yahoo.com
. . logand@yorku.ca
. . demonhood@demonhood.com

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . bfatherr@harlingen.tstc.edu

[Arkham_c]

I'm at 171,992 blocks as of today. In 20 days at yesterday's rate I will hit 250k blocks. If I can get some of my old help back online, I could get there as fast as 10 days, or less if I keep my new iBook cranking away.

Anyone else getting obcessed with this?

[slipjack]

Originally posted by Arkham_c:
<STRONG>I'm at 171,992 blocks as of today. In 20 days at yesterday's rate I will hit 250k blocks. If I can get some of my old help back online, I could get there as fast as 10 days, or less if I keep my new iBook cranking away.

Anyone else getting obcessed with this? </STRONG>

Obsessed? No... I don't know what you're talking about.. uh unh, no idea....

[Scotttheking]

Originally posted by Arkham_c:
<STRONG>I'm at 171,992 blocks as of today. In 20 days at yesterday's rate I will hit 250k blocks. If I can get some of my old help back online, I could get there as fast as 10 days, or less if I keep my new iBook cranking away.

Anyone else getting obcessed with this? </STRONG>

eh?
obsessed?
me?
huh?


I'll show you obsessed soon enough
/me wanders back to working on getting his new "computers" back online.

[reader50]

January 4, 2002, Milestones for the previous 9 days.
Milestones will return to Wednesdays as dnetc stats allow.

*Passed the 25K milestone (6)
. . telomar@mac.com
. . greedy@emerge.net.au
. . littlea@lawrence.edu
. . jdruce@mac.com
. . Sebastian Celis
. . tygr@mac.com

*Passed the 50K milestone (4)
. . jccbin@ro3.com
. . denis3@aol.com
. . crusher4@mac.com
. . icee@wt.net

*Passed the 100K milestone (5)
. . agitzen@mac.com
. . jvaldez@mac.com
. . 533
. . proux@mac.com
. . PatGmac

*Passed the 250K milestone (2)
. . Dez
. . slipjack@aphoria.com

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . legacyb4@www.lumine.net

*Passed the 1M milestone (1)
. . runenfool@theriver.com

Edit: fixed year

[ 01-30-2002: Message edited by: reader50 ]

[reader50]

January 9, 2002, Milestones for the previous 5 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (3)
. . cslaude@mac.com
. . wincentcolaiuta@mac.com
. . Mad Milo

*Passed the 50K milestone (2)
. . bobdalgleish@mac.com
. . etd@bigfoot.com

*Passed the 100K milestone (3)
. . rc5@brianosaurus.org
. . dylann@mac.com
. . pleyden1@mac.com

Edit: fixed year

[ 01-30-2002: Message edited by: reader50 ]

[zac4mac]

Woo-hoo - 4,659; best day ever. I think someone helped - thanks!

congrats to Malson - passed 1,000,000 yesterday?

Imagine what we can do if His Steve-ness ever gives us G5's.

[malson]

Originally posted by zac4mac:
<STRONG>Woo-hoo - 4,659; best day ever. I think someone helped - thanks!

congrats to Malson - passed 1,000,000 yesterday?

Imagine what we can do if His Steve-ness ever gives us G5's.</STRONG>

:bowing: Thank you, thank you...I did finally make it to 1,000,000 blocks yesterday. Took me 297 days of crunching. That averages out to 3367 blocks/day. Of course up until I received my Dual 800 on August 29, I only had a PowerMac 8500/150 crunching. A good day then was 450 blocks. That truly shows the awesome power of the Dual G4 machines Happy crunching!

[reader50]

January 16, 2002, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (2)
. . theycallmetheglassman@hotmail.com
. . andrewsnyder@mac.com

*Passed the 50K milestone (3)
. . aalok@uchicago.edu
. . rwhiffen@mac.com
. . jessespears@mac.com

*Passed the 100K milestone (2)
. . wulf@mac.com
. . crash@waste.org

*Passed the 250K milestone (1)
. . jearly@ups.edu

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . Dez

*Passed the 1M milestone (1)
. . malson

Edit: fixed year

[ 01-30-2002: Message edited by: reader50 ]

[Arkham_c]

I am SO close to that 250k milestone. If you could my pre-MacNN stats, I'm well over the 250k limit. Next week

[the_glass_man]

Woo hoo, Top 100, and almost up to 50K. Hehehehe

[reader50]

January 23, 2002, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (2)
. . vanbuskirk@rogers.com
. . edddeduck@mac.com

*Passed the 50K milestone (2)
. . cslaude@mac.com
. . steevak@spu.edu

*Passed the 100K milestone (3)
. . Eric Smalling
. . mayodreams@maplenet.net
. . Albert Wu

*Passed the 250K milestone (2)
. . spam2@theresistance.net
. . Chris Alemany

Edit: fixed year

[ 01-30-2002: Message edited by: reader50 ]

[slipjack]

Blew by the 250k mark.. and moving in a coupla ya'll... top 20 it'll be at this rate! Now if my company can just stay in business...

[edddeduck]

What's going on?

Have we had any updates this year??

Just asking coz yours truly has hit 25k

Cheers Edd

[reader50]

January 30, 2002, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (3)
. . Nyuni
. . David Ellis
. . otto@macsrule.com

*Passed the 50K milestone (3)
. . davidm@cs.stanford.edu
. . theycallmetheglassman@hotmail.com
. . Sebastian Celis

*Passed the 100K milestone (6)
. . jccbin@ro3.com
. . Jon
. . corinthian@mac.com
. . crusher4@mac.com
. . bozo the clown
. . j_pphillips@yahoo.com

*Passed the 250K milestone (1)
. . Bockiemon@home.com

*Passed the 1M milestone (1)
. . bfatherr@harlingen.tstc.edu

[reader50]

February 6, 2002, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (2)
. . mtc7501@aol.com
. . carbon@bright.net

*Passed the 50K milestone (6)
. . andrewsnyder@mac.com
. . vanbuskirk@rogers.com
. . greedy@emerge.net.au
. . dougandjaana@mac.com
. . telomar@mac.com
. . helmwind@mac.com

*Passed the 100K milestone (2)
. . denis3@aol.com
. . cpatubo@mac.com

*Passed the 250K milestone (1)
. . peshealy@mac.com

[Mac Zealot]

Lately I contribute very little time in RC5, only pull about 600-800 units a day when I'm doing good.

I really need to leave it on all day, I could crunch 3 or 4k units!

My DP800 normally does 16mkeys/sec

[reader50]

February 13, 2002, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (4)
. . pathfinder@isl.is
. . nebulae@telusplanet.net
. . alex_miller01@yahoo.com
. . mjager@mac.com

*Passed the 50K milestone (1)
. . mtc7501@aol.com

*Passed the 250K milestone (3)
. . jbiga #7124
. . agitzen@mac.com
. . discstickers

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . Osirisis@yahoo.com

*Passed the 1M milestone (1)
. . Dez

[Osirisis]

Originally posted by reader50:
<STRONG>February 13, 2002, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (4)
. . pathfinder@isl.is
. . nebulae@telusplanet.net
. . alex_miller01@yahoo.com
. . mjager@mac.com

*Passed the 50K milestone (1)
. . mtc7501@aol.com

*Passed the 250K milestone (3)
. . jbiga #7124
. . agitzen@mac.com
. . discstickers

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . Osirisis@yahoo.com

*Passed the 1M milestone (1)
. . Dez</STRONG>

Wahey, 500k

What can I say, easily excited

[slipjack]

500K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and it was the dual Ghz that got me over the edge...

320k blocks today by Team MacNN GO TEAM!

Any chance of Scott coming back to help full time? We could hit 400k!

[Scotttheking]

Originally posted by slipjack:
<STRONG>Any chance of Scott coming back to help full time?</STRONG>

Probably not.

Most of the stuff crunching now is systems that I can't find to switch over. I'm really not sure where they are. I'll put a little more power on when I'm not so busy at work and can reload a bunch of boxes that I've been formatting, but no guarantees.
My current goals are SETI and ubero.

[slipjack]

Originally posted by Scotttheking:
<STRONG>

Probably not.

Most of the stuff crunching now is systems that I can't find to switch over. I'm really not sure where they are. I'll put a little more power on when I'm not so busy at work and can reload a bunch of boxes that I've been formatting, but no guarantees.
My current goals are SETI and ubero.</STRONG>

Anything helps, thanks. I'm still 100% on RC5 for the moment, I might try SETI soon...

[reader50]

February 20, 2002, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (2)
. . wakko@fuse.net
. . tdart@firstfolio.com

*Passed the 50K milestone (2)
. . Nyuni
. . MacAddict

*Passed the 100K milestone (4)
. . mtc7501@aol.com
. . rwhiffen@mac.com
. . bobdalgleish@mac.com
. . Archangel

*Passed the 250K milestone (1)
. . bergerjs@aol.com

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . slipjack@aphoria.com

*Passed the 1M milestone (1)
. . legacyb4@www.lumine.net

[Archangel]

Originally posted by reader50:
<STRONG>February 20, 2002, Milestones for the previous 7 days.
*Passed the 100K milestone (4)
. . mtc7501@aol.com
. . rwhiffen@mac.com
. . bobdalgleish@mac.com
. . Archangel
</STRONG>

Yay me!

[rwhiffen]

Originally posted by reader50:
<STRONG>February 20, 2002, Milestones for the previous 7 days.

*Passed the 25K milestone (2)
. . wakko@fuse.net
. . tdart@firstfolio.com

*Passed the 50K milestone (2)
. . Nyuni
. . MacAddict

*Passed the 100K milestone (4)
. . mtc7501@aol.com
. . rwhiffen@mac.com
. . bobdalgleish@mac.com
. . Archangel

*Passed the 250K milestone (1)
. . bergerjs@aol.com

*Passed the 500K milestone (1)
. . slipjack@aphoria.com

*Passed the 1M milestone (1)
. . legacyb4@www.lumine.net</STRONG>

Oh! Oh! Yay for Me too! I can't believe how much differences my iMac G4-800 makes over my G3-500.... like 5 million keys/s difference.

I've got it running on a Dual P-II 450 Win2k for like 2.6 M k/s and that's the only box that comes close. gotta love the RISC number crunchin power...

Also have a Win98 P233, win2k-233, win2k-P-III-450, Linux-P-III-500,
Linux P-II-300, Linux-P133, Dual Ultra-Sparc 400s (two of those) and from time to time a Dual Ultra-sparc-450 (with more backside cache).
I haven't sat down and crunched the numbers, but i'd be the G3 and the G4 are a third of my units alone....

Happy crunchin'

Rich Whiffen
rwhiffen@mac.com

[Grozni Majmun]

There is both a rwhifen@mac.com and a rwhiffen@mac.com crunching, but only one of them is on Team MacNN. Did you make a typo when you set up one of the clients?
Yes I know, I am procrastinating....

Originally posted by rwhiffen:
<STRONG>

Oh! Oh! Yay for Me too! I can't believe how much differences my iMac G4-800 makes over my G3-500.... like 5 million keys/s difference.

I've got it running on a Dual P-II 450 Win2k for like 2.6 M k/s and that's the only box that comes close. gotta love the RISC number crunchin power...

Also have a Win98 P233, win2k-233, win2k-P-III-450, Linux-P-III-500,
Linux P-II-300, Linux-P133, Dual Ultra-Sparc 400s (two of those) and from time to time a Dual Ultra-sparc-450 (with more backside cache).
I haven't sat down and crunched the numbers, but i'd be the G3 and the G4 are a third of my units alone....

Happy crunchin'

Rich Whiffen
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