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Zimwy · Feb 7, 2003, 01:22 PM

Hey,
I can get a SE with keyboard, mouse, everything, all working, for cheap. It has an ethernet connection and I'm at college, so free internet access. Can anyone think of cool things for it to do?

Thanks,
Gabe

ps no MacQuarium!!

sine -''-..- · Feb 7, 2003, 02:53 PM

make it run a full screen clock... and make it sync time over the net with veremya.

el lindo · Feb 7, 2003, 03:42 PM

They can be handy mp3 servers.

Zimwy · Feb 7, 2003, 04:58 PM

How would I turn it into an mp3 server? It only has a 40 MB hard drive... can I expand the hard drive?

:XI: · Feb 7, 2003, 06:59 PM

irc terminal?
email?
word processing?
spreadsheets?
final cut pro? maybe not...
just put it on your desk, where it can look cool.
all mac owners should have at least one classic all-in-one.
want to sell me it?

bradoesch · Feb 8, 2003, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by Zimwy:
How would I turn it into an mp3 server? It only has a 40 MB hard drive... can I expand the hard drive?

The tricky part about expanding the hard drive would be getting the case apart. You'll need a long torx to get into the screws at back of the case. If you get it apart, take a look at the inside of the case. I'm pretty sure there is the signatures of the Macintosh team in there.
For the replacement of the drive, I imagine it's a standard 3.5" SCSI drive. Should be able to find a bigger one on eBay. You won't be able to add another though, you'll need to replace the existing one. There was a hack that let you add another drive, or replace the floppy with another hard drive, I don't quite remember. But if you get a large enough replacement drive, there's no need to try and keep an extra 40 MB I wouldn't think.

Zimwy · Feb 8, 2003, 05:58 PM

There are mp3 server programs written for os 2 or whatever it runs?

I haven't found any good ones for OS X. There's quicktime streaming server but that acts more as a radio station than as a server. Any ideas for that?

Gabe

bradoesch · Feb 9, 2003, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by Zimwy:
There are mp3 server programs written for os 2 or whatever it runs? Gabe

Heh heh, when I saw "os 2", I thought OS/2, IBM's operating system. You were right though, the Mac Plus originally shipped with 2.0. It supports up to 7.5.5, but ikes, with 1 MB of RAM, I'd think 7.5.5 would grab hold of the SE's neck really tight. I'd recommend using whatever Mac OS version comes with OpenTransport. I don't know which ones do, but it's sure a lot easier configuring it than the alterative, MacTCP. I still can't figure out MacTCP. Maybe there's something easier (other than OT), I don't know. I believe Apple used to charge for OT, so it might not come with those early versions of the Mac OS.

finboy · Feb 9, 2003, 05:37 PM

The SE is hard to crack and you have to be able to set the interleave if you replace the hard drive.

BUT...

The real problem is the lack of horsepower. It will absolutely not crunch or uncrunch MP3s, but you could use it as a CDROM server with an external drive (it will remember your favorites).

I'm sure there are versions of Mosaic or CyberDog that will get you on the Web with it, but without a minimal system and 4M of RAM (the max) it won't be fun to watch. Oh, it will be in black and white, too.

they're great machines for word processing or other tasks, just not surfing.

bradoesch · Feb 10, 2003, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by finboy:
The SE is hard to crack and you have to be able to set the interleave if you replace the hard drive.

How and what is setting the interleave?

finboy · Feb 12, 2003, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by bradoesch:
How and what is setting the interleave?

The interleave is the number of times the disk spins between reads. SE will use a standard 3.5" SCSI drive (50 pin) but it reads too slow. I think it takes a 3:1 interleave -- you have to do a low-level format, I think, using something like CharisMac or Hard Disk Toolkit. You'll have to find one that is compatible with the 68000 -- most are PowerPC only nowadays, or 68030 and up.

Or, just plug an external SCSI drive into it.

Anyway, it's a really useful machine. It just takes some Old School knowledge and working-on.

bradoesch · Feb 12, 2003, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by finboy:
The interleave is the number of times the disk spins between reads. SE will use a standard 3.5" SCSI drive (50 pin) but it reads too slow. I think it takes a 3:1 interleave -- you have to do a low-level format, I think, using something like CharisMac or Hard Disk Toolkit. You'll have to find one that is compatible with the 68000 -- most are PowerPC only nowadays, or 68030 and up.

Or, just plug an external SCSI drive into it.

Anyway, it's a really useful machine. It just takes some Old School knowledge and working-on.

Very informative. Thanks for the info.

I have a copy of HardDisk Toolkit that came with a PowerMax 3000. It's a PPC machine, but maybe it's old enough to still support 68k machines.