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Flashing a 5200 FX
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Sep 15, 2004, 05:21 PM
 
I have had many people ask about this. Since it is listed in the "Core Image" requirements interest has increased. Eric at techseekers claimed to get one working. A guy named "Jan" (I think) at Cubeowners non-chalantly mentioned he had flashed a couple of them. Pressed for details, he squirmed.

I bought a PNY 5200 Ultra and flashed it. Showed up as Mac 5200 in Sys Profiler but could not produce an image on either video out port. Close but no cigar....

Has anyone REALLY gotten these to work?

Does anyone have a pic or a link to a pic of a model that is flashable?

Coule make a nice future upgrade for G4 owners, especially those with Cubes.

As with 4600, nice first step would be a hack for NVFlash to get it to flash PC Nvidia cards from terminal.

Together we can figure this out.

Anyone?
     
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Sep 27, 2004, 12:25 PM
 
Could you provide a link to the PNY card you used? Seems that it would work if the chip initialization registers in the Mac Rom were Hacked to the Regs of the PNY card.

I've got the tools needed, however with the 9800PRO PC cards dropping in price the only use of this card is for Cube/PCI Mac users. In Old World Rom Macs we'd need to use a Work-a-round for the Map-in bug in Open FirmWare.

This card may well be the Only PCI card that will ever be able to use Core-Image, but the Bandwidth requirements may make it useless. We can only hope for one more round of 33mhz PCI cards but I don't think we'll see them. It would be much better to have a R9600 PCI.
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Sep 27, 2004, 08:48 PM
 
9600 would be a great card if there were a PCI one. Even a 2X AGP one for Cubes would be ideal. Low power/low heat.

Anyway, here are the two 5200's I tried. One is a cheapy, the other a full FX Ultra.:

http://www.amacapart.com/images/2@5200.jpg

Again, the Ultra would show up properly in system profiler, it just wouldn't run a monitor. If I hit "detect displays" it seemed to try.

It is likely that the core & RAM speeds are off. No one has figured out how to modify these in ROM like we can do with ATI. The "MBToolkit" is a nice try, but rather pointless as it doesn't work. Curiously, the ioreg dump from an ATI card has these values. They are not present from a GF3 dump. There is a field which says something like "Let dev set speed" or something similar which perhaps means the speed values stay in the card and are not acted on or seen directly by CPU.?

As I have posted in Ti4600 thread, we DESPERATELY need to figure out the OS X flasher. I am getting there but may not ever finish. It runs as a software installer, even making you choose an installation volume. OS X ATI flasher runs very much like OS 9 flasher, acting directly on card.

As my well-intentioned family have boxed up 90% of my stuff, including my PC FLashing station, this is a bigger hurdle than it was.

Thomas Perrier has done tremendous work on ATI side. No matter how much I poke & prod him, he won't touch the NVFlash ap or ROM speed situation. Damned unreasonable French, always whining about eating, sleeping, or working. Clearly his priorities are all screwed up.
     
   
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