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Ca$h68 · Sep 12, 2000, 12:59 AM

Ok, I just thought of this on the way home today. Can I overclock my nintendo or my super nintendo?

I dont know why anyone would want to do this, but I do! It'd rule!

Imagine playing bubble bobble at like 140%!!!! ROCK ON! Or playing F zero!

Anyone seen anyone do this before?!

Ca$h

The Godfather · Sep 12, 2000, 05:03 AM

Of course you can overclock your Nintendo!

The oldest, the simplest, the easier to tinker in.

Look for the XTAL (the tiny oval tin can). There should be two identical ceramic disc capacitors next to it. You have to unsolder them and replace them with another pair of identical capacitors, but of smaller capacitance. The clock frequency is inverse-proportional to the capacitance of these capacitors.

Cipher13 · Sep 12, 2000, 05:52 AM

That is so cool!
Does the above method apply with the 64 as well? How would I go about oc'ing a PSX?

Cipher13

Cipher13 · Sep 12, 2000, 06:12 AM

Dammit...

Cipher13

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The Godfather · Sep 12, 2000, 07:36 PM

Of course you can. Although, aren't 64's hot enough?

Cipher13 · Sep 12, 2000, 08:17 PM

Figuratively, yes

. Literally, no, they run cool-as.

Cipher13

seanyepez · Sep 19, 2000, 12:51 AM

Cool! Now I can play Mario World 3 with awesome, GeForce^2 Ultra quality graphics! Keep dreaming, Sean...

(Dreams of Mario with 32-bit color, FSAA, and a less blocky head...

)

We need a frames per second indicator for these consoles, dude!

Ca$h68 · Sep 19, 2000, 12:58 AM

How about a guesstimate? I'd say 4 player perfect dark is about FIVE FPS. BLECH!

What a crappy game.

Ca$h

keyser_soze · Sep 19, 2000, 03:40 AM

If u want a faster nintendo, u could d/l iNES, it kicks a$$, and you can control the speed of it. emulation.net has it and it's really ez to find rom's if u search.

Hehe, i just got this thing tonight, but i already beat half of legend of zelda......i feel like i'm 8 years old again

Cipher13 · Sep 19, 2000, 06:10 AM

Of course, you only have ROMs of games you own, RIGHT?
It is illegal to download ROMs and keep them for more than 24 hrs unless you legally own a copy of the game.
It would not be a good idea for anybody to condone such acts as downloading ROMs you are not legaly entitled to, and MacNN does not condone this behaviour. You have to remember, MacNN can be help responsible for anything people post here... keep that in mind.

Cipher13

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blizaine · Sep 19, 2000, 08:31 AM

What if you owned them but you got them stolen? Can you download them even though you have no proof of ever owning them?

Because I used to own every SNES game ever made, but I got them all stolen.

keyser_soze · Sep 19, 2000, 06:05 PM

yeah, i've got about 60 games for the old NES, i even got about 20 for the atari 2600, but I don't have an easy way of playing them on my computer w/o d/ling rom's. Also, NES cartridges didn't have the best reliability when they were new, let alone 10 to 15 years old.

On a side note, when are all the industries gonna start following software companies and allowing u to register stuff you are supposed to have gotten a license to?

If cd's(or video games or dvd's or anything) came with a 16 digit alphanumeric key that you registered with your name, then someone could make a database that would get rid of napster issues and rom issues, because they could actually tell if u had a license to the copyright.

I bet they won't be doing that for a while, because it would hurt long term profits. They'll fight it all out in the courts trying to make us pay for the same thing over and over again, instead of just buy it once, and d/l it forever, since you DO own a license to it.

Sorta wrong forum, but hey, he started the whole piracy thing.

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druber · Sep 22, 2000, 11:53 AM

speaking of iNES, has anyone been able to save games on Final Fantasy? the save feature doesn't seem to work, i can't get the freeze feature to do the job. oh, it makes me so *angry*.

(heheh) i guess i could pull my nintendo out of cold storage, but i want screen shots, and it'd be so nice to play it at work, too, when i need a break from UT. work is tough!

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jaguarandi · Oct 5, 2000, 03:27 PM

Forget the NES Final Fantasy - I'm up for the Color Wonderswan version coming out in December - 16-bit graphics and everything!

Okay, that was a little out of control.

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jaguarandi · Oct 5, 2000, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by keyser_soze:
yeah, i've got about 60 games for the old NES, i even got about 20 for the atari 2600, but I don't have an easy way of playing them on my computer w/o d/ling rom's.

Did you grow up with these games? I've noticed that people who grew up with Atari and 8-bit Nintendo tend to appreciate them more

Also, NES cartridges didn't have the best reliability when they were new, let alone 10 to 15 years old.

It's not the games - it's the systems. The original NES was a dirt-trap, and the SNES and N64 aren't much better. I have Famicom games that are 15 years old which play fine on a brand new system...

On a side note, when are all the industries gonna start following software companies and allowing u to register stuff you are supposed to have gotten a license to?

If cd's(or video games or dvd's or anything) came with a 16 digit alphanumeric key that you registered with your name, then someone could make a database that would get rid of napster issues and rom issues, because they could actually tell if u had a license to the copyright.

I don't think there's a database in the universe large enough to hold all of that information. Besides, privacy advocates would be all over it faster than the CueCat

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gumby5647 · Feb 19, 2001, 05:05 PM

what kind of CPU did the NES have? Speed? who made it?

Bluebomber21XX · Feb 19, 2001, 07:36 PM

Actually, if CDs required an unlock key, someone would just make a database for files. Can anyone say Surfer's Serials?

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waffffffle · Feb 23, 2001, 01:33 AM

dudes, the snes used a motorola 6809 processor, the same as the apple II. The processor is very weak, so to compensate the SNES has some impressive graphics hardware for that time. Nintendo used to do their development on apple IIs, and then Macs, through emulation. Apple originally planned for the first macintosh to use the 6809 too, but when steve took over the project he wanted to use the graphical interface of the lisa so the 68000 processor of the lisa was needed (a much more powerful processor). There's an emulator on emulation.net that is supposedly a modified hack of nintendo's developer software. Check it out. It was quite a scandal like 3 years ago I think. However Snes9x now incorporates all the features of that emulator and even runs on OS X. Very cool. Either way I still suck at all snes games. I never had one, I still have my genesis in my dorm room however, play nhl 94 all the time. Lets go rangers!

austeros · Mar 1, 2001, 09:17 AM

its funny, alast week half the kids on my floor were playing oni.... now were all back to playing Dr. Mario (i am playing megaman 3 right now)

its very nice to be able to do so, i miss my old nintendo, but when i go home, i will have to pull that thing out.

SmileyDude · Mar 1, 2001, 12:38 PM

Actually, the SNES used the 65816... the same CPU in the Apple IIgs. It was a true 16-bit CPU with backwards compatibility with the 6502 series (used in the Apple I/II, C-64, Atari 400/800/XL/XE, NES, and much more).

The Motorola 6809 was a completely different chip... not compatable at all with the 6502. The 68000 was another chip from Motorola that was another completely different chip, that could use the same support chips from the 6800 line. But codewise, nothing would run on the 6809 and 68000.

So, to sum up - 6502 and 6809 8-bit chips
65816 68000 - 16 bit chips

6502 --> 65816
6809 --> 68000

Nintendo, as I recall, used the IIgs in early development of SNES games. But since, they've moved on to PCs with emulator cards... and of course, now, they don't do development for the SNES.

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bluedog · Mar 2, 2001, 09:14 AM

Smileydude is right.

I had a Tandy Color Computer 2 and 3. They had a Motorola 6809 in 'em, and were relative to the 68000 from Motorola. Its no wonder I went for a mac after selling my Coco!

The processors weren't *that* great, but were efficient and programmers took the best effort to maximize their potential. It seems amazing when you look back on 'OS-9' from Microware that was a multi-user OS capable of running dozens of applications simultaneously in the same way UNIX does in 64Kb! This pre-dates the Macintosh completely. Of course the interface was command-line and when a GUI was developed as a seperate application, it wasn't the fastest in the world.

But *that* was efficient computing!

Back to emulation, the scene is awesome. Having a history of computing software from the Commodore64, AppleI-gs, Macintosh, PC from DOS-Win2k, Linux native/emulated, to all the arcade games, consoles up to the PSX is none short of astounding.

Check out: www.emulation.net
for the low down on emulation on a Mac!