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Nov 26, 2000, 01:47 PM
 
i heard dropping a g4 from a hight of at least 50ft will increase the g4's proccesor frequency to 3.421 ghz
     
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Nov 26, 2000, 07:21 PM
 
You LIAR! I just tried it and it didn't do anything. I though maybe it needed to be dropped from even higher, so I dropped it off an overpass. After much dodging through cars, I retrieved my G4, and now it won't even boot up

What was the point of that post? To see if anyone actually did it?


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Nov 27, 2000, 03:47 AM
 
I'm trying this, but if anything happens to my G4, you're paying for it.

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Nov 27, 2000, 10:28 AM
 
I just dropped my dual 450 G4 from the top of my scool. Now it doesn't work. What a crock! Man, so much for a new monitor for christmas.
     
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Nov 27, 2000, 11:03 AM
 
Originally posted by Jsnuff1:
i heard dropping a g4 from a hight of at least 50ft will increase the g4's proccesor frequency to 3.421 ghz
Being a physicist, I have heard a lot about the Doppler Effect and this little story could have no other explanation than the Doppler Effect. You probably all have heard of the Doppler Effect at high school and so I guess you can see the link between velocity and frequency. But, in this case, forget it. Even knowing it must be a joke, I had to do a quick estimate, just to be sure. Well, 50ft will never be enough, not even if you neglect the air surrounding the G4. And remeber, this gain in Frequency would only be for someone in the lab system, i.e. on the ground. In the system of the G4 (in the G4 itself) the Frequency would always stay the same.

So, if you wanna tell this joke, try it again with 5 Million feet or so...

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Nov 27, 2000, 11:38 AM
 
oh yea i forgot to add a couple of zeros after the 50
     
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Nov 27, 2000, 03:17 PM
 
Will there really be a difference between 50 and 5,000,000 ft?
I mean, your G4 will still be smashed into a million itty-bitty pieces!


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Nov 28, 2000, 04:34 AM
 
Originally posted by IEEE1394:
Will there really be a difference between 50 and 5,000,000 ft?
I mean, your G4 will still be smashed into a million itty-bitty pieces!

Of course, before it's smashed to millions of pieces, people on the ground will see that it has a frequency of a few PHz if you let it drop from high enough, but then again, why go to space, kill your little Mac just to let people on earth see how fast it can be.

On the other hand, where can you buy the extension cord, that will power the thing in orbit?

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Nov 29, 2000, 02:16 AM
 
Thats why you use a PowerBook - what is it, 12 Hrs battery with two installed?

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Nov 29, 2000, 09:43 AM
 
Originally posted by Cipher13:
Thats why you use a PowerBook - what is it, 12 Hrs battery with two installed?

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I thought it was more like 5 hrs per battery max or 4 hrs real world. But on the other hand, if we're already bullshitting with physics, try this: If we accelerate our PowerBook close enough to the speed of light, a clock in the PowerBook system will run slower than one on the earth. I guess then, you could get even 20hrs or so from one battery...

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Nov 29, 2000, 02:16 PM
 
Originally posted by Simon C. Leemann:
I thought it was more like 5 hrs per battery max or 4 hrs real world. But on the other hand, if we're already bullshitting with physics, try this: If we accelerate our PowerBook close enough to the speed of light, a clock in the PowerBook system will run slower than one on the earth. I guess then, you could get even 20hrs or so from one battery...

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Actually, if time slows down you may actually slow the processor speed to a crawl and not have to worry about it.
     
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Nov 29, 2000, 05:30 PM
 
don't you just love "in theory..."?
of course you could do away with batteries and connect a cold fusion reactor...
     
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Nov 30, 2000, 05:29 AM
 
Nah, we wanna keep it as streamlined as possible.
Cold fusion would be too big, and most likely unaerodynamic. We're after minimum resistance - iBook style
Hm... if it had something to vector itself in a constant direction then a ramjet would be viable, burning collected hydrogen, no? Then once it had enough thrust, it could go on for quite a while
If I'm wrong about that think of this: its late, I haven't slept for over 20 hrs, and I have consumed a larger-than-average amount of alcohol tonight...
But then again, I normally think more clearly when I'm tired...

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Nov 30, 2000, 04:27 PM
 
Originally posted by eep!:
don't you just love "in theory..."?
of course you could do away with batteries and connect a cold fusion reactor...
Forget cold fusion. That doesn't even work in theory. Never believe a dreaming physicist.

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Dec 1, 2000, 03:16 AM
 
Actually, back to the doppler effect, since you would be the one dropping it, the computer is going away from you so you would get a lower frequency. You would only get a higher freq. if you were on the ground catching it.
Dropping the computer doesn't seem to be the answer, though. I think we need to have Apple drop Motorola from the Empire State Bldg. towards us in order for Mhz to really increase. Yeah, that gotta be it.
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Dec 1, 2000, 05:18 AM
 
Originally posted by pdot:
Actually, back to the doppler effect, since you would be the one dropping it, the computer is going away from you so you would get a lower frequency. You would only get a higher freq. if you were on the ground catching it.
Yeah, try that. I'd like to catch that PowerBook coming at 0.9*c.

No, of course you need to look at that PowerBook coming towards you to see those PHz... Let an astronaut drop it from space and wait for it on earth or so...


Dropping the computer doesn't seem to be the answer, though. I think we need to have Apple drop Motorola from the Empire State Bldg. towards us in order for Mhz to really increase. Yeah, that gotta be it.
Sounds very good. How about dropping it from outer space or from Alpha Centauri - ok that would be more like hurling it towards earth than dropping it, but who cares. We need more MHz.

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Dec 1, 2000, 06:36 AM
 
Originally posted by Simon C. Leemann:
Forget cold fusion. That doesn't even work in theory. Never believe a dreaming physicist.

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and according to computers, and "in theory" bumble bees should not be able to fly..............never say never

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Originally posted by suprz:
and according to computers, and "in theory" bumble bees should not be able to fly..............never say never
I was afraid someone would bring up something like that. OK, I'll put it this way: Today's most actual theoretical physics and our current experimental knowledge tells us, that cold fusion is dreaming. One day far in the future, new theories, super symmetry, grand unified theory, theory of everything, quantum general relativity... what do I know - then we can sit together and look at it again.

For the moment, cold fusion violates PROVEN theorems. And that's stuff, that is pretty well known and has been verified over and over.

Cold fusion would be cool, but for the next fifty years, you better start accepting the fact that it's goodbye to cars and coal/oil heating if you want to solve the environmental problems. Cold fusion isn't going to get us out of that mess so soon...

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Dec 1, 2000, 10:37 AM
 
Phz, never heard that one, is it 1,000 Ghz or something along those lines?
     
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Dec 1, 2000, 03:47 PM
 
Originally posted by Jsnuff1:
Phz, never heard that one, is it 1,000 Ghz or something along those lines?
You got it - PHz as in Peta-Hertz = 1000 GHz.

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Dec 6, 2000, 03:10 PM
 
I tried dropping my G3, and it now actually works faster than before. However, the difference in the time-space-continum causes everything else around it to be in a slower time zone, so to speak. Therefore, no one can notice the improved speed. It is partly due to the effects of relativity.
     
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Dec 7, 2000, 05:33 PM
 
Spact-time continuim you say? Somebody's been watching a litle too much Star Trek...

Try using a modulating Tachyion burst to correct the problem


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Dec 9, 2000, 12:40 PM
 
whats that supposed to mean i love star trek
     
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Dec 10, 2000, 12:14 AM
 
As do I. Where do you think igot "Tachyion Burst" from?

Don't you have to be a trekky to be a computer dork? I thought it was obligatory


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1000 GHz = 1 TeraHz (10e12Hz), NOT PetaHz.
1000 THz = 1 PetaHz (10e15 Hz)
     
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Dec 18, 2000, 12:53 AM
 
How about this one: If you left a G4 on earth and moved away from earth at the speed of light, then the G4 would go at amazing speeds (or so it would seem because time would go really fast on earth when it would go slowly for you while traveling so quickly)

     
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Dec 18, 2000, 09:33 PM
 
Well technically yes, but what good is a computer thats getting 300000 kilometers further away from you every second that goes by?
It'd also have a nice colour tinge

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Dec 18, 2000, 09:34 PM
 
Originally posted by Ruddigger:
Don't you have to be a trekky to be a computer dork? I thought it was obligatory
Well, I hate Star Trek, but then, I'm not a computer dork either

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Dec 18, 2000, 11:39 PM
 
Originally posted by Cipher13:
Well technically yes, but what good is a computer thats getting 300000 kilometers further away from you every second that goes by?
Well, yes, but isn't the whole point of this thread that it would be highly impractical?

If you only had monitor and keyboard cables that long... that would be a lot copper...
     
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quote:
originally posted by Simon C. Leemann:
Cold fusion would be cool, but for the next fifty years, you better start accepting the fact that it's goodbye to cars and coal/oil heating if you want to solve the environmental problems. Cold fusion isn't going to get us out of that mess so soon...
Yeah, but what about hot fusion? We already got 33% efficiency, and it's only going to get better with the NSTX!

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How about this one: If you left a G4 on earth and moved away from earth at the speed of light, then the G4 would go at amazing speeds (or so it would seem because time would go really fast on earth when it would go slowly for you while traveling so quickly)
Uh, I think I'll wait a few weeks and get UMA-2 Power Macs. Several advantages:
-Cables are a little less expensive
-I won't have to gain any more weight this holiday season (well, mass really, cause I'd be on outer space) - you have to consider the WHOLE theory of relativity
-Get to spend more time with family & friends

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