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cashsixty8 · Nov 20, 2000, 07:10 PM

Ok, I dont have a DVD Rom, but if I did, I would want to know. ALSO, since the beginning of TIME we are allowed to make one backup copy of our software, and thus it IS LEGAL to make a copy of a CD if you own it, record a tape if you own it, copy software if you own it, AND COPY DVDs,.

HA. COPYING MOVIES, CDs, CASSETTES, SOFTWARE, AND YES DVDS IS LEGAL AS LONG AS YOU OWN THEM AND YOU DO NOT SELL THE COPY.

So keep this freaking topic open, and answer the damn question.
Or I will. Currently, you CANNOT copy DVD movies. Something is different.

Ca$h

[This message has been edited by Misha (edited 11-22-2000).]

eep! · Nov 21, 2000, 07:21 PM

i posted a reply to a similar question but my post was deleted and the thread locked.
oh, and you can copy dvd's.
but i have a feeling i'm gonna have to register eep!2 or something...
...wasn't the internet supposed to promote free speech?
my AR$E!

SpeedRacer · Nov 21, 2000, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by cashsixty8:
Currently, you CANNOT copy DVD movies. Something is different.

Talk to the movie industry and the DVD Copy Control Association.There's a whole lot of people (and big-name companies that DON'T want you to be able to copy DVDs... even if only for personal backups.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/t...iew/crg750.htm
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/t...opy991228.html

You might check out the following URL for more info on differences between various DVD technologies:
http://www.visiblelight.com/dvd/

Speed

The Godfather · Nov 21, 2000, 08:42 PM

You could also copy your DVD into a mini-DV tape.
http://www.us.buy.com/retail/electro...ry.asp?loc=821

The page linked above says you can record movies in mini-DV tapes at a higher quality than DVD.

Misha · Nov 22, 2000, 11:00 AM

You can rip the MPEG-2 track from the DVDs to your drive... but beyond that, the reason why you can't copy DVD movies is because you need a DVD-R (recorder) not a DVD-RAM. DVD-RAM is for computer use only, and is unable to copy the inner track DVD movie data (don't ask quite). DVD-R is very pricey... four figures for a unit, last I checked.

Additionally, DVD-RAM media sells for 2x the cost of a DVD movie, so there's little point in copying it at this point in time. Plus, unlike VHS which degrades over time, there's little reason to back up DVDs unless you think you're going to lose them or scratch them up. Again, there's the cost factor... it's cheaper to buy another one than back it up, and it will be for quite some time, at least a handful of years.

And, let's be honest here, how many of you actually legitimately back up copies of stuff you own? Show of hands... that's what I thought. I think everyone here has ripped the industry off, I know I have.

eep! · Nov 22, 2000, 11:23 AM

And, let's be honest here, how many of you actually legitimately back up copies of stuff you own? Show of hands... that's what I thought. I think everyone here has ripped the industry off, I know I have.

hey, i hope you're not promoting piracy Misha...

cashsixty8 · Nov 22, 2000, 07:15 PM

Definatly consider that promoting piracy. You admitted it. Better ban yourself and use different names for a month. Can I take charge?

'`'`'`'`'`'

Ca$h

eep! · Nov 22, 2000, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by The Godfather:
You could also copy your DVD into a mini-DV tape.
http://www.us.buy.com/retail/electro...ry.asp?loc=821

The page linked above says you can record movies in mini-DV tapes at a higher quality than DVD.

Yes a dv stream is higher quality as it is uncompressed whereas mpeg2 is.
however, encoding dv as mpeg2 reduces the quality and once it is gone you cannot get it back.
so you cannot copy a dvd to mini-dv and increase the quality, sorry.

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Cipher13 · Nov 23, 2000, 12:03 AM

I think we've all ripped off the industry at one stage or another. They deserve it anyway.
Best thing I have found to do while: rip to the HD, and keep it there till you need the space.
I'll get a bigger HD soon so hopefully that can become more realistic...
A DVD-R is $4000 US.

Cipher13

pdot · Nov 23, 2000, 03:28 PM

I'm not too familiar with the DV format but if it's size is as big (or bigger) than a similar quality MPEG2, then there's no reason to ripoff or backup a DVD. DVD's range from 4 GB to 8 GB and that's usually too expensive to keep as one whole file. You can split them up if you put them in DV I guess, but then you have the hassle of switching a whole bunch of disks (I'm assuming you're going to put them in CD-R's afterwards) to watch one movie. I think there are some who re-encode MPEG2's at lower quality with Sorensen or DivX codecs, but then you don't have that DVD quality that you've been wanting so you might as well have backed up or rip off a VHS tape.

eep! · Nov 25, 2000, 11:27 AM

pdot, what you said is almost what i stated in the previous thread (which was locked) so....

LOCK THIS THREAD ALREADY....
IT'S GETTING TO CLOSE AND THE MOVIE INDUSTRY MAY SUE MACNN AND WE'LL LOSE OUR FORA.

and i know i'm shouting.

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cashsixty8 · Nov 26, 2000, 03:39 AM

No. Backing up DVDs is legal. The MPAA is just ****ing stupid. This is a perfectly legit topic, as we are entitled to make one back copy of it, but the MPAA is trying to take away our rights. Freaking liberal bastards.

Ca$h

mindwaves · Nov 28, 2000, 01:31 PM

What about mpeg-4?

Jsnuff1 · Nov 28, 2000, 02:16 PM

i dont know much about dvd's but for the hell of it i took a dvd movie made a copy of it on my HD then copied it on a dvd with a dvd-ram drive, it worked fine, the second dvd playes as good as the first

TimmyDee51 · Nov 28, 2000, 06:20 PM

Ca$h, I don't think that the MPAA could be considered "liberal." In fact, if they are for preserving their tidy chunk of change, I'd be willing to bet they are conservatives.

The literal meaning of liberal is something along the lines of granting more freedom of individual action and expression. Conservative is preserving the status quo, which in this case is their fat wallets.

Nov 28, 2000, 10:04 PM

check out http://www.macdvd.org for info about dvd backup on a mac

JamesKass · Feb 23, 2001, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13 in November 2000:

A DVD-R is $4000 US.

Cipher13

What a difference a few months makes... now you can get the 733 G4 with the built in DVD-R for $3600...

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Cipher13 · Feb 23, 2001, 11:10 PM

Indeed

$999 a piece

Not here though

Cipher13

[This message has been edited by Cipher13 (edited 02-24-2001).]